Any experience with UNDYING MUSIC ?

Sat, 23/01/2021 - 10:46

I just wanna know if any1 here ever bought stuff from UNDYING MUSIC (Indonesia)?
Or maybe knowone know the guy who is running UNDYING MUSIC?

Its not my intention to blame some1 as a scammer in the first place...and i know shipping can take a while these days. And i dont have any problem to wait for stuff i want/payed for.
BUT....when i dont get any kind of answer...in weeks....but see him posting new stuff on Facebook (the stuff also pops up here) i ask myself..if i could be scamed?

I was chatting with him/the owern before i bought the Terrorizer LS...we had a realy nice chat..but...since i payed...i didnt got a tracking number or any kind of answer to any of my questions..hahaha..

So...any ppl with experience here...or maybe some1 know him? Any help would be welcome!!!

doctordeath on Sat, 23/01/2021 - 18:56

https://tshirtslayer.com/tshirt-or-longsleeve/21-undying-music-metal-fuc...

Well so far Indonesia is winning the scam-country award so far for 2021 :)

I'll link his account to this post

doctordeath on Sat, 23/01/2021 - 18:58

He has a few unread messages/PM here, last one he opened was 2/25/18 ...

meaningless

on Sun, 24/01/2021 - 11:02

yeah, i know that he isnt 'that' active anymore here on TSS, but very active on Facebook. Thats why it seems he is ignoring me. When u log-in there to upload new stuff u wanna sell - private messages pop-up ...if u want or not....so im sure..he was reading my questions....

I didnt tried pm him here/on TSS .....instead i pm'd our member : bemzmorbid
'bemzmorbid' was uploading stuff here, like this one 09.01.2021 - https://tshirtslayer.com/tshirt-or-longsleeve/luck-corpse-tshirt
with the info, that u can buy it via Undying Music. The label inside the shirt..is musickcadas. Since both are from Indonesia..i was expecting that they sell their stuff also for each other/they are linked together.

doctordeath on Sat, 23/01/2021 - 19:05

can you find a phone number?

meaningless

on Sun, 24/01/2021 - 11:05

depending on infos of discogs.com:
Pondok Saidin no.2B
Jl. Saidin RT 7 RW 3
Bambu Apus Timur Pamulang, Tangerang
15400 Indonesia
Phone number: +62217412396
Email: undyingmusicsales@gmail.com

..it looks like he also official released CDs/Tapes ...so...

meaningless

on Sun, 24/01/2021 - 11:07

https://www.discogs.com/de/label/563518-Undying-Music

https://undyingmusic.bigcartel.com

https://www.facebook.com/UndyingMusic

Samppa666 on Mon, 25/01/2021 - 10:32

Musickcadas is definetly legit, dont know about Undying Music but when ive had problems to contact a seller via email ive sent a message on fb or tried another way if that doesnt work.

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 07:00

yep..same here...but tried already all this ways to contact him...

Samppa666 on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 10:53

That might not be a good sign.

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 16:54

yep...looks like...ppffffff

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 16:54

my wife bought 2 shirts via musickcadas 2 months ago - np, everything went smooth..yep

ThrashMetal1982 on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 06:16

I bought their Cancer “To the Gory End” and “Death Shall Rise” long sleeves and everything went smoothly. This was back in late 2017. However, the following year, I purchased a few long sleeves but never got them in the mail. Seller/Owner said that it was sent and would come with tracking, but I never got the tracking number. After MONTHS of dispute I got my money back. Haven’t done business with them ever since.

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 07:01

OK....that hurts...., seems i have to try to get my money back...ppffffff....
my experience sounds exactly same as yours! Thx for ur comment, dude!!

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 07:14

btw...you got your money back, - solved with Paypal? ..or u have pm'd/Mail'd him to death till u got your money? ..haha..just asking, so i know what i 'can' try now..hahaha

ThrashMetal1982 on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 07:18

Yup! I got my refund back from PayPal. Though I felt that the seller was reluctant to return my money 😂 but hey, he messed up with my order. As long as you have proof that you purchased your item and haven’t received anything then you should be good. :)

ThrashMetal1982 on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 07:05

If you haven’t received update on your order then it’s best to contact with the seller (obviously lol) But I hope you don’t have to encounter what I went through - emails sent back and forth leading up to nowhere but arguments. Ever since that issue happened I haven’t bothered doing business with them, no matter if their products are worth buying.

But anytime man!

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 16:52

i didnt even have a char with him, not per email not per facebook chat. I made my order (and payed) on 21.11.2020 ...after i payed i never got an answer from this guy. Now...i have send the whole thing to paypal - i want the money back (or the shirt) whatever..i ok with both.
But since he is still posting new stuff for his shop....i know he is/was reading my messages.
So....whatever ..im realy pissed..haha...damn it...

Zarathos on Mon, 21/03/2022 - 18:34

Hello, so did u receive the shirt or manage to get your refund?

Room101 on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 08:50

I bought 2 Carcass shirts at their webstore some years ago and there was no problem.

meaningless

on Tue, 26/01/2021 - 16:50

thx for info dude, seems...a few years back..it was working well...not like now.

outbreak of evil on Wed, 27/01/2021 - 19:24

I've met this person during my trip to Jakarta on 2014 and 2018 . Bought several shirts ( solstice, terrorizer, cancer, malevolent creation and carcass) from him and have a great chat too.
He is a nice person and personally i don't have any problem with him.

I don't know what happened to him ever since, plus i never bought any merch at their webstore.
I hope you will solve your problem with undying merch sooner my friend.

meaningless

on Wed, 27/01/2021 - 20:14

aha..interesting to hear! ..yeah...no idea what happend lately, when i look on my situation and situations of others here. I tried so many times to talk to him again..but no respones. Sadly..i had to go the way via Paypal...maybe ill get the money back at least.
But my heart is bleeding when i see this great Terrorizer LS...it was the first version after maaaaaaaaaany years which had a print, very close to the original. But seems - i shoulndt have it...ppfff

melba_cunningham on Sun, 26/12/2021 - 22:04

I don't know about the others, but I've already managed to get acquainted with the UNDYING MUSIC Instagram channel. I even managed to order a couple of T-shirts from the newest albums of my favorite band. However, not a single T-shirt has arrived yet, given the fact that I ordered them about two weeks ago. I know almost nothing about the service itself and who manages it. The only thing I know for sure is that this is a pretty cool store with a wide variety of T-shirts. This service has an excellent reputation and reviews, maybe the T-shirts you ordered are stuck at customs? It sometimes happens that for some reason, the goods did not pass customs or got lost somewhere and have not yet been found. So wait a little more, maybe the package will arrive after all?

meaningless

on Thu, 23/12/2021 - 16:26

yeah, the stuff he released recently, looks pretty bad ass...like the older stuff. Maybe he found is way back on the track and everything is fine again. But at the start of the year....nope.

Zarathos on Mon, 21/03/2022 - 18:59

Did the shirt reach your mail?

oldmate

on Thu, 23/12/2021 - 05:16

did it ever come... i never heard of them or used them, but now I see they have a cool Mortal Sin tshirt

meaningless

on Thu, 23/12/2021 - 16:24

i was waiting for a month, or something, before i send a claim via Paypal to get my money back. As far i know now, he had some (business/private?) problems at this time..and many things didnt worked out well. But atm..it seems he is back in the track.
All the new stuff, recently released, looks pretty fine, indeed. I think...everything is ok now again..but its just a guess - i dont know it, u know ;)

But maybe everything is ok now, no idea. Didnt tried a second time so far...

meaningless

on Thu, 23/12/2021 - 16:26

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Zarathos on Sat, 02/04/2022 - 09:35

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Zarathos on Sat, 02/04/2022 - 09:30

You can request a refund from paypal.

zilin on Wed, 23/03/2022 - 14:48

Never do the bank transfer to others ,you did not know who is on the other side of internet.
Eventhough you need to pay a few tax .that is the most safe way to do business all of the world .

I sell patches never asked the person to pay as friend/family.
But if they trusted me ,and paid as friend ,I will be thankful to them and send gifts inside .

So DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE who wants your money first.

Antichrist-Germany on Sat, 17/05/2025 - 01:13

Again - to all here: UNDYING MUSIC is the biggest scammer on this planet - Beware of this scum! He got reported to our scambaiting team by more than 15 people now... so this is not a "comeback" into the business like some people here were trying to tell You.. by defending this liar and piece of sh1t scammer. NO - "it's the Return of Scamness and Feeble" . If he sends 1 package out of 10 orders - while ripping off the other 9 "customers" at the same time - tell me: does this make him a serious business man ? No - he is just the biggest scammer rat. Got some friends in his area who will pay him a visit soon... so if You - Mr. Undying Music - are reading this here right now with Your fake accounts - always remember "God has mercy - Outlaws don't" (we warned You several times). Your behaviour will have consequences in real life - promised! Avoid this scum!!!

meaningless

on Tue, 20/05/2025 - 13:58

..seems....he didnt stoped and still try to keep 'his business' going...damn...
Im not surprised...that nothing have changed

Thx @Antichrist-Germany

Antichrist-Germany on Thu, 22/05/2025 - 21:07

@meanignless You're welcome bro - Cheers \m/ Yeah - he is always trying to find new victims ... and is never tired of finding new excuses for his lies on Facebook. I have protocols of many chats with him (10 users did send us their full chat history) Always the same old scammer principle: first he is trying to give the user confidence by chatting with them... and telling them that he will send everything well protected and with tracking... then - after the money has been transferred (most users did only use PP friends) no more chatting or replying... and if he replies at all he is sending out fake tracking numbers that never existed. Biggest Rat in the business!

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