In September I purchased a Campri Leather jacket from NUNSLAYER via a facebook leather jacket group. Joshua Schulte aka nunslayer accepted my pay pal transer for 500 cad. We chatted until about a week after purchase and then he ghosted me.
I just wanted other people from this site to know he is a con artist.
I created an Instagram profile as well as this account to try and get a refund. https://www.instagram.com/mr__tinkertrain/
If you are interested I have proof of purchase on my Instagram page. I am also more than happy to answer any other questions. If you have contact with this guy and care to help out an old punk hit me up.
Cheers to all!! (but not him hahaha)
NEVER PAY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WITH PAYPAL ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE AMOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why didn't you pay with protection and spend a few more dollars?
Yes, thank you for the hot tip. I know I made a mistake.
He is very active on this site. So I just wanted to warn others.
I believe in the good of the underground taking care of each other. And so its my duty to at least call him out to others in the community.
That is his way. He knows what he did. Thought he would rip of a random person. I know I was naive. But I am an old rocker who doesn't use the internet...UNTIL NOW. I am sorry to be annoying bothering people with this shit. But I won't let it go!!!
hm.....realy? this guy here: https://tshirtslayer.com/user/nunslayer ?
He have so many good trade reviews. Even i made a trade in the past (Nocturnal patch for Warrant patch..if i remember correctly) ...and everything worked out well.
Realy sorry to hear that....and still a bit surprised that happend... :-(
was asking myself the same.... (since..when i think in my own sometimes...when my illness 'strikes twice' ..haha...oh damn...)
But looks like..its not the case when u see what Barry said @Doc ...hm.....truly strange and sad...
I have talked to some of his friends on instagram. Its not the case. He has stopped responding to anyone once you bring up my transaction with him. Looks like he just thought he could steal from me. Super weird as I saw he had could reviews before I stupidly did friends/family on pay pal (like an idiot) with him.
If he sends me the jacket, or returns my money...or at least talks to me. I'd be very happy to stop slandering him online and go back to not being on the instagram or these forums. This is a cool site though!
I hope Joshua see's these messages though. I have sent him hundreds at this point. Its disappointing, it sucks, and I am pissed off.
But thanks everyone for responding. When dealing with trades and purchases online everyone should know who the scammers are.
I wish I talked to you in September hahaha. I have learned a lesson that is for sure. But maybe Joshua will come to his senses after learning one too? Who knows.
He is not taking accountability that is for sure!
NUNSLAYER has not logged onto this site for over a week. When he used to be active every single day. This shows he is GUILTY. If anyone knows him personally please reach out to him. If he makes it right we can all look back at this and laugh!!!
Feels like the top collector on this site should definitely have some manner of repercussions if they don't respond to multiple allegations of scamming in a timely manner... It makes everyone here look bad.
Well yeah you can't physically go and do something, but I think the integrity of your site is going to be compromised if you do nothing at all. What that disciplinary action is lies completely with you of course. But the last thing everyone in the community wants is the top person on the site getting a pass on alleged scamming. If he can get away with it, imagine what a less visible person could do. You know?
Let's set aside the actual question of scamming here because yeah, there's some blame to go around on both sides. Most of us just want to look at cool merch, learn some metal history, and have the opportunity to get a piece of that in our own collections. Those people on the "Top Collectors" section have a particularly heavy responsibility to the integrity of the TSS sales/trade system because it's only based on good faith and they've likely benefited from it the most. Even a couple sentences saying "Hey here's what happened. I didn't do shit." would be enough to absolve Nunslayer in my mind. For whatever reason, Nunslayer isn't doing that, and not responding in this case can be considered almost as bad as scamming since it has the same corrosive effect on the sales system due to his visibility.
Nunslayer has not just gotten a pass, his account has been labeled sacmmer and this thread has done irreparable damage to his reputation.
Removing him from the top collectors leader board is not a bad idea, but what more would you like to be done exactly? If you are saying he has gotten a pass in your mind, then you should have some concrete suggestions on what should be done, in my opinion.
Would you want his account to be deleted? That destroys any hope for someone who has unfinished buisness with him to get that buisness resolved
Why are you saying there is blame on both sides? What has Barry done for you to say this?
Well... I am certainly not trying to imply your website is shit? I quite enjoy it here. Which is why I care enough to give you money monthly and speak up when I see something that could potentially affect everyone's ability to conduct business on good faith.
As we now have both pointed out, it's not my place to offer a specific solution because it's not MY website. I don't know how the website works on the admin end. But if you really want a solution, I think that the mark denoting that Nunslayer is currently considered a scammer as you have done is entirely appropriate and sufficient disciplinary action to take. Without knowing all the details here, I would think a way to make amends and get that taken off would also be entirely appropriate for Nunslayer considering how much he's contributed in the past. Otherwise preserving the metal history of those contributions should take the top priority. Again, I have no idea how to do that because I've never seen under the hood of the website.
I am glad you all the rockers on this site are taking this seriously. Even though I know I screwed up. I am glad this bozo is still getting a dose of what happens when you rip someone off!
His personal problem of this site can be solved by paying me back I am sure he can be forgiven.
I have never received the jacket or any communication from him. He had replied to other people when messaged for a while after i purchased it. But when my name was brought up he ghosted them.
I would still like to hope he will one day come to his senses.
Or the other way I fly to Germany and give him a spanking like others suggested haha.
Shit Barry, I am sorry this happened to you. I have recently been scamemd by a person that uses the name Dackel von Schwarzstein on Facebook. When I wrote a post in the FB patch group to alert everybody, people were referring to this thread here on TSS, saying that it was the same guy, and I think it is.
Similar to this thread, a few people commented saying that he has been reliable for years in their experiences. However, I also received one message by a girl that also got ripped off, so I think he is making victims left and right now.
Thanks for heads up on that facebook user. I've seen his posts, he had some nice stuff. The flaky ones are always more dangerous than full-time scammers due to mixed reviews. Then it becomes a roulette and folks who get scammed get gaslighted into believing it's an "accident" or their fault. Mixed feedback is same as negative feedback when it comes to integrity. Any error margin is a red flag.
Update: After pressuring him through a notification in the Facebook group he eventually sent them to me. I got mine, plus some extra. But this is of course not the way it should be. I have sent him a message to urge him to reply here but he hasn't responded...
Goes to show... anything less than smooth worry-free transaction is a red flag. No nudging and no hassle should be necessary to get the correct stuff. Ripping off quiet users when it's easy to get away with it, and only making things right when someone makes a public noise.
Flaky folks with mixed reviews are on same tier as scammers.
I hope more people speak out when similar shit happens and not bury it in silence. Silence only encourages more bad conduct. Especially nowadays when small screens make everything feel depersonalized and easy to dissociate human element from trades/deals.
You're right. It's pretty much the same tier. The ones that still hold up their end of the deal AFTER being called out or that chose to scam selectively are perhaps even more dangerous to the game
I am sure he sold that jacket he ripped me off on to someone else. But I will never let it go. I don't use face book but friends who do use it (including those who live in Germany) would get replies until I was brought up. The fact is I call him all the time he could answer the call and laugh in my face but he is a coward.
i remember i needed to ask some german friends out for his phone number just to call him and remind him to send me the patches i bought,he did eventually send them but one of them was the wrong one
Yeah on Facebook and some German app
My friend bought 2 patches from him and they arrived 3days ago they were talking on Instagram but if you mention anything about the jacket he will just block you
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doctordeath on
NEVER PAY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WITH PAYPAL ESPECIALLY FOR LARGE AMOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why didn't you pay with protection and spend a few more dollars?
Barry Mcockner on
Yes, thank you for the hot tip. I know I made a mistake.
He is very active on this site. So I just wanted to warn others.
I believe in the good of the underground taking care of each other. And so its my duty to at least call him out to others in the community.
doctordeath on
I asked him to comment here
Barry Mcockner on
Thanks I really appreciate that
doctordeath on
He has logged in and read my message but not replied here
Barry Mcockner on
That is his way. He knows what he did. Thought he would rip of a random person. I know I was naive. But I am an old rocker who doesn't use the internet...UNTIL NOW. I am sorry to be annoying bothering people with this shit. But I won't let it go!!!
meaningless
hm.....realy? this guy here: https://tshirtslayer.com/user/nunslayer ?
He have so many good trade reviews. Even i made a trade in the past (Nocturnal patch for Warrant patch..if i remember correctly) ...and everything worked out well.
Realy sorry to hear that....and still a bit surprised that happend... :-(
doctordeath on
yeah same guy :( strange
meaningless
yep, thats realy strange :-( comes surprising...
doctordeath on
I'm wondering if he got sick or something happened maybe
meaningless
was asking myself the same.... (since..when i think in my own sometimes...when my illness 'strikes twice' ..haha...oh damn...)
But looks like..its not the case when u see what Barry said @Doc ...hm.....truly strange and sad...
Barry Mcockner on
I have talked to some of his friends on instagram. Its not the case. He has stopped responding to anyone once you bring up my transaction with him. Looks like he just thought he could steal from me. Super weird as I saw he had could reviews before I stupidly did friends/family on pay pal (like an idiot) with him.
Barry Mcockner on
If he sends me the jacket, or returns my money...or at least talks to me. I'd be very happy to stop slandering him online and go back to not being on the instagram or these forums. This is a cool site though!
sfusyron
That sucks hopefully everything will work out..
meaningless
ppfff....ok...realy sorry to hear that....
Even Death May Die
This seems very out of character. I hope he gives a explanation.
andermatten on
Barry, are you AI?
Barry Mcockner on
Am I AI? Hell no!!!
I just don't use social media. And like a fool i trusted a fellow rocker for a sick jacket.
Barry Mcockner on
I hope Joshua see's these messages though. I have sent him hundreds at this point. Its disappointing, it sucks, and I am pissed off.
But thanks everyone for responding. When dealing with trades and purchases online everyone should know who the scammers are.
doctordeath on
Never use PayPal friend/family
Barry Mcockner on
I wish I talked to you in September hahaha. I have learned a lesson that is for sure. But maybe Joshua will come to his senses after learning one too? Who knows.
He is not taking accountability that is for sure!
Barry Mcockner on
NUNSLAYER has not logged onto this site for over a week. When he used to be active every single day. This shows he is GUILTY. If anyone knows him personally please reach out to him. If he makes it right we can all look back at this and laugh!!!
xXtastyautopsyXx on
nunslayer, more like nunscammer
Barry Mcockner on
HAHAHA
doctordeath on
Since about end of October he stopped replying to and reading PMs
bad_american1992 on
Sad to hear... burning his reputation for $500 CAD. He and I had good deals in the past so this is a huge disappointment.
Even Death May Die
Yeah this just makes zero sense to me
Barry Mcockner on
That's what I'm saying. Like buddy this site is clearly a big deal to you. Just give me a refund say you messed up and move on.
Barry Mcockner on
$500 CAD 295 euro. Crazy stuff to waste a reputation on.
Poisonhell on
I have bad experience with him once...scammer
program_control on
Feels like the top collector on this site should definitely have some manner of repercussions if they don't respond to multiple allegations of scamming in a timely manner... It makes everyone here look bad.
doctordeath on
other than putting a warning on his account and blocking him, i'm not his mother.. i cant go around to his place, bend him over my knee and spank him
what exactly are you asking for?
as always, never send paypal "friends and family" its in bright-yellow WARNING TEXT on every message - therefor both people are to blame
Superfly on
I would pay for your flight to go out so you could spank him on his bum
Barry Mcockner on
HAHA the thought has crossed my mind
program_control on
Well yeah you can't physically go and do something, but I think the integrity of your site is going to be compromised if you do nothing at all. What that disciplinary action is lies completely with you of course. But the last thing everyone in the community wants is the top person on the site getting a pass on alleged scamming. If he can get away with it, imagine what a less visible person could do. You know?
Let's set aside the actual question of scamming here because yeah, there's some blame to go around on both sides. Most of us just want to look at cool merch, learn some metal history, and have the opportunity to get a piece of that in our own collections. Those people on the "Top Collectors" section have a particularly heavy responsibility to the integrity of the TSS sales/trade system because it's only based on good faith and they've likely benefited from it the most. Even a couple sentences saying "Hey here's what happened. I didn't do shit." would be enough to absolve Nunslayer in my mind. For whatever reason, Nunslayer isn't doing that, and not responding in this case can be considered almost as bad as scamming since it has the same corrosive effect on the sales system due to his visibility.
Even Death May Die
Nunslayer has not just gotten a pass, his account has been labeled sacmmer and this thread has done irreparable damage to his reputation.
Removing him from the top collectors leader board is not a bad idea, but what more would you like to be done exactly? If you are saying he has gotten a pass in your mind, then you should have some concrete suggestions on what should be done, in my opinion.
Would you want his account to be deleted? That destroys any hope for someone who has unfinished buisness with him to get that buisness resolved
Why are you saying there is blame on both sides? What has Barry done for you to say this?
doctordeath on
program_control can start his own tshirtslayer - YES, thats 100% the problem, if i delete the account, then the data for others is gone.
Then he can make a new account and we'de never know about it..
ofcourse, program_control like other keyboard warriors doesnt offer any genius ideas other than just saying how shit of website tshirtslayer is
program_control on
Well... I am certainly not trying to imply your website is shit? I quite enjoy it here. Which is why I care enough to give you money monthly and speak up when I see something that could potentially affect everyone's ability to conduct business on good faith.
As we now have both pointed out, it's not my place to offer a specific solution because it's not MY website. I don't know how the website works on the admin end. But if you really want a solution, I think that the mark denoting that Nunslayer is currently considered a scammer as you have done is entirely appropriate and sufficient disciplinary action to take. Without knowing all the details here, I would think a way to make amends and get that taken off would also be entirely appropriate for Nunslayer considering how much he's contributed in the past. Otherwise preserving the metal history of those contributions should take the top priority. Again, I have no idea how to do that because I've never seen under the hood of the website.
sfusyron
Maybe take him off the leaderboard so the person under hellslaughter can get recognized?
Even Death May Die
Good idea
doctordeath on
After a little "research" i can 100% confirm he's having some personal problems of sorts, hope he gets better!
oldmate
thanks.
Barry Mcockner on
I hope he comes and pays me back.
Barry Mcockner on
I am glad you all the rockers on this site are taking this seriously. Even though I know I screwed up. I am glad this bozo is still getting a dose of what happens when you rip someone off!
His personal problem of this site can be solved by paying me back I am sure he can be forgiven.
Dr.steker on
Does anyone know if he got the jacket back,I once bought patches from him and waited a long time my friend also.
Barry Mcockner on
I have never received the jacket or any communication from him. He had replied to other people when messaged for a while after i purchased it. But when my name was brought up he ghosted them.
I would still like to hope he will one day come to his senses.
Or the other way I fly to Germany and give him a spanking like others suggested haha.
Oldschool on
Shit Barry, I am sorry this happened to you. I have recently been scamemd by a person that uses the name Dackel von Schwarzstein on Facebook. When I wrote a post in the FB patch group to alert everybody, people were referring to this thread here on TSS, saying that it was the same guy, and I think it is.
Similar to this thread, a few people commented saying that he has been reliable for years in their experiences. However, I also received one message by a girl that also got ripped off, so I think he is making victims left and right now.
FarFarNorth on
Thanks for heads up on that facebook user. I've seen his posts, he had some nice stuff. The flaky ones are always more dangerous than full-time scammers due to mixed reviews. Then it becomes a roulette and folks who get scammed get gaslighted into believing it's an "accident" or their fault. Mixed feedback is same as negative feedback when it comes to integrity. Any error margin is a red flag.
Oldschool on
Update: After pressuring him through a notification in the Facebook group he eventually sent them to me. I got mine, plus some extra. But this is of course not the way it should be. I have sent him a message to urge him to reply here but he hasn't responded...
FarFarNorth on
Goes to show... anything less than smooth worry-free transaction is a red flag. No nudging and no hassle should be necessary to get the correct stuff. Ripping off quiet users when it's easy to get away with it, and only making things right when someone makes a public noise.
Flaky folks with mixed reviews are on same tier as scammers.
I hope more people speak out when similar shit happens and not bury it in silence. Silence only encourages more bad conduct. Especially nowadays when small screens make everything feel depersonalized and easy to dissociate human element from trades/deals.
Oldschool on
You're right. It's pretty much the same tier. The ones that still hold up their end of the deal AFTER being called out or that chose to scam selectively are perhaps even more dangerous to the game
Barry Mcockner on
Thats great buddy! I wish I had the same luck!
Barry Mcockner on
I am sure he sold that jacket he ripped me off on to someone else. But I will never let it go. I don't use face book but friends who do use it (including those who live in Germany) would get replies until I was brought up. The fact is I call him all the time he could answer the call and laugh in my face but he is a coward.
provalija od coveka on
i remember i needed to ask some german friends out for his phone number just to call him and remind him to send me the patches i bought,he did eventually send them but one of them was the wrong one
Barry Mcockner on
I also have his phone number. I call him everyday but he never answers.
meaningless
When i read all that stuff here...it seems i was realy lucky, my trade went good with him.
(just traded 1 Patch 1:1)
420 666 on
I figured out: On Vinted his new name is hannibalmanson. In case you want to boycott him also on other platforms.
Corrosive on
Cannot find him, maybe he's changed name already?
420 666 on
https://www.vinted.de/member/69127872
Still found him
Barry Mcockner on
looks like he already changed again. what a coward
MalevolentSilver on
He is also selling stuff on Facebook again
Dr.steker on
Yeah on Facebook and some German app
My friend bought 2 patches from him and they arrived 3days ago they were talking on Instagram but if you mention anything about the jacket he will just block you