Accept Udo with Axes Old Transfer Backpatch.

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Fri, 10/11/2023 - 22:13

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Knightwhosayni on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 07:50

A great one. Transfer though? I doubt it considering the print expanding on the borders, to mention just this. I used to own one exemplar which was screenprinted in a stunning way: https://tshirtslayer.com/patch/accept-udo-holding-flying-vs-vtg-backpatch

Megazero on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 09:16

so can you screen print on the air?

Knightwhosayni on Sun, 12/11/2023 - 08:34

Well a transfer wouldn't stick on air either, would it? And I always thought that transfers wouldn't stick to thread/embroidery. But that's an interesting question for the screen printers out there, if they see this topic.

Megazero on Sun, 12/11/2023 - 11:24

I wanted to dispel your doubts in a radical way but I see that you resist hehehe.

Indeed, the transfer can remain like this if no one bothered to cut out the excess and time has not yet done the job. The impression of the transfer is solid and rubbery, if you want to check it, just tap one of the transfer sheets that you have in your gallery with your fingernail. With the liquid ink of a screenprint this result is impossible.

This patch and the other one you showed me are transfers. I've seen some patches (very few) with both screenprint and transfer versions, but their design is never exactly the same.

The reality is that there are many transfer backpatches in people's galleries (some acclaimed for their beauty) without them even knowing it. When it has been applied in an industrial/professional manner the result can be very similar and you have to look closely to distinguish them. Some clues may be the complexity of the design, the tactile texture of the print, even the tone of the colors, but if the print surpasses what the patch is, then there is no doubt.

Some more examples.

Knightwhosayni on Sun, 12/11/2023 - 12:33

That is all very interesting and edifying, thank you.
But as I tend to resist on this particular topic hehe, could you please clear up one last doubt I have: as I understand it, and in my experience, a transfer needs to be heat applied on something -namely, a fabric- to work properly, eg detach from its paper backing. If part of a transfer lays on nothing because it has been badly applied on a blank backpatch and that part of it pokes out, how can the poking out part of the transfer actually detach from its paper backing?
BTW Plastisol inks, especially the older ones, can be solid and rubbery too (if I understood well that you said it wasn't).
Anyway, just trying to dig a bit deep for a better understanding here. Thanks again for your time.

Megazero on Sun, 12/11/2023 - 13:18

That is easy to answer, it comes off the paper because the impression is still a whole, it is still attached to the part that has remained inside the patch. That part outside the patch has a stronger bond with the rest of the print than with the backing paper.

One more example:

Knightwhosayni on Sun, 12/11/2023 - 13:30

I thought about this, but I also thought that the transfer wouldn't stick to thread /hemmed border, and wouldn't stick anyway if not applied to a fabric (it would break at the fabric / border edge). Very interesting.