I just want to try to figure out the basics here.
After reading on the forum I learned that buyers should be paying with Paypal as ”goods and services”, not as friends/family.
Does this guarantee that you can get refunded if you happen to get scammed in any way? Is it then impossible to get refunded if you get scammed and you paid as friends/family?
And why do many sellers ask for payment as friends/family? What is this ”to avoid extra fee” that is so frequently mentioned? Is it easier for scammers to get away when they recieve a friend/family transaction?
TSS and other platforms are full of people whining and crying "I sent $300 to some guy I never met before, who isnt even in my country, who I only sent 1 message to, and now he disappeared with my money, please help!!!"
dont be stupid, dont be a victim - never use friends and family
If it's over a $5 patch, then maybe 'friends' and risk it, but what I dont get it is why so many people send _serious_ amounts of cash around without PayPal protection, and then fill up my inbox "please help!!!" but I mean, I can't help it if you're stupid, so it's sort of more about common sense
Yeah PayPal fee's are a bitch, but if you are moving a solid amount of money then.. it's there for your protection, ask the seller to factor in the price.
With Friends/Family you _cannot_ make a claim, and both PayPal *AND* the scammer know this, its good for paypal and the scammer if you use this option
So paypal charges a fee on goods and services payments that goes from the amount after payment, essentially making the seller pay them. For me i usually ask it because iv been scammed with a goods and services payment combined with an untracked letter. Basically i have no leverage if the buyer opens a case even if i can prove i sent it. But buyers often dont wanna pay extra for tracked shipping so its a difficult situation
I don’t know if this forum is still alive on account of the date, but I just tried buying some patches from someone overseas and the transaction went sour and that’s when I saw the „NEVER send as Friends and Family! You are warned!“ message above trading messages. That fucker.
Users with good trade reputations often ask people to use friends and family to save on fees and so that they don't get "charge back scammed" via goods and services and untracked shipping, by new people. Exactly like samael666 described a few posts above. You transfered the wrong amount via friends and family, asked for a refund in order to send the right amount on your 2nd try. The refund was issued within minutes of you asking for it. Who are you calling a fucker? Dont you think someone with bad intentions would have kept the money?
Made.
Thanks man i appreciate it!!! Ill be doing more on my instagram :)
https://tshirtslayer.com/patch/iron-maiden-golden-oldies-you
Intriguing re-recordings on this one, and the new songs rule too. "Lost and Lonely Days"!
Nice!
I saw this while on vacation in Cleveland a couple weeks ago. I regret not picking it up, but alas, money was tight.
The final Kreator album for me.
I would've loved to have been in the pit for this one. Nearly 40 years ago now! Wow!
Nice. This place needs more Vomitor!
It's an old bootleg I bought around...2011/12.
Bootleg (nehme ich an) aus Mexiko. Scythe Industries.
Without the logo, interesting :)
Sick!
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doctordeath on
Yes is the answer.
TSS and other platforms are full of people whining and crying "I sent $300 to some guy I never met before, who isnt even in my country, who I only sent 1 message to, and now he disappeared with my money, please help!!!"
dont be stupid, dont be a victim - never use friends and family
doctordeath on
If it's over a $5 patch, then maybe 'friends' and risk it, but what I dont get it is why so many people send _serious_ amounts of cash around without PayPal protection, and then fill up my inbox "please help!!!" but I mean, I can't help it if you're stupid, so it's sort of more about common sense
Yeah PayPal fee's are a bitch, but if you are moving a solid amount of money then.. it's there for your protection, ask the seller to factor in the price.
With Friends/Family you _cannot_ make a claim, and both PayPal *AND* the scammer know this, its good for paypal and the scammer if you use this option
samael6666 on
So paypal charges a fee on goods and services payments that goes from the amount after payment, essentially making the seller pay them. For me i usually ask it because iv been scammed with a goods and services payment combined with an untracked letter. Basically i have no leverage if the buyer opens a case even if i can prove i sent it. But buyers often dont wanna pay extra for tracked shipping so its a difficult situation
MortalFate on
Right on. Fully agreed.
CorbinEvolved on
What ever happened with the Aenima patch?
WoodyRoots97 on
I don’t know if this forum is still alive on account of the date, but I just tried buying some patches from someone overseas and the transaction went sour and that’s when I saw the „NEVER send as Friends and Family! You are warned!“ message above trading messages. That fucker.
Even Death May Die
Users with good trade reputations often ask people to use friends and family to save on fees and so that they don't get "charge back scammed" via goods and services and untracked shipping, by new people. Exactly like samael666 described a few posts above. You transfered the wrong amount via friends and family, asked for a refund in order to send the right amount on your 2nd try. The refund was issued within minutes of you asking for it. Who are you calling a fucker? Dont you think someone with bad intentions would have kept the money?
Jo_infir on
You should use the goods & services method, and this will be safe from being scammed