Distro/label/mail order reputations.

ShieldbitersValhallaSun, 16/10/2011 - 06:38

I've thought about doing this for a while now, and then saw Deimosk8's similar post about trading with tshirtslayer users, then figured this should be done too.

Lets hear about labels/distros/mailorders that you have ordered from in the past, and have had a good or bad experience with. We should try to keep this unbiased/un-opinionated, and mainly from a professional yes/no, good/bad standpoint. Although if you really feel like you have something to add about a particular experience, maybe just put it underneath the facts in a "review", or "opinion" area. Also, try to describe the time frame for the whole order process. Maybe list your country next to the country of the distro, and an estimate of the time it took to receive your package from when you made the order. I'll add to the list as I see distros that I haven't heard of before.

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Reliable distros according to me and others:
- http://www.over-zone.com/framesetuk.htm [Italy]
- http://shop-hellsheadbangers.com/metal_patches_black_death_thrash_grind_... [U.S.]
- http://www.officialabyssrecords.com/index.php?cPath=63&osCsid=7450aff13b... [U.S.]
- http://www.smprecords.de/portal/index.php?article_id=1&clang=1 [Germany]
- http://www.trollzorn.de/store/index.php?language=de&store=index.php& [Germany]
- http://www.blazing.ws/store/ [Netherlands]
- http://www.goddess.nl/merchandise/index.php [Netherlands]
- http://www.redstream.org/ [U.S.]
- http://paganflames.com/ [U.S.]
- http://test.methorn.de/index.php?cat=c10_Patches.html [Germany]
- http://bucketofafterbirth.bigcartel.com/ [U.S.]
- http://www.mastersthrone.de/shop.php [Germany]
- http://www.indiemerch.com/ [U.S.]
- http://www.squaredealonline.com/default.asp [U.S.]
- http://www.crustpunks.com/ [U.S.]
- http://www.cmdistro.com/index.aspx [U.S./E.U.]
- http://www.blackenedmoon.com/store/ [U.S.]
- http://www.blackmetal-lusitania.com/ [Portugal]
- http://shop.undercover-records.de/?lang=en [Germany]
- http://www.nwnprod.com/catalog/ [U.S.]
- http://shop.metaldevastation.com/Patches_c122.htm [U.S.]
- http://www.theoldoutpost.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1&osCsid=rg5g0r0akf... [Canada]
- http://asatruversand.com/__shop/index.php/cat/c33_Patches.html/XTCsid/nh... [Germany]
- http://www.divinemetaldistro.com/ [U.S.]
- http://www.nhmetal.com/ [U.S.]
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Distros with mixed feedback:
- http://www.uniqueleader.com/site/home.html [U.S.]
- http://www.guttershock.com/ [U.S.]
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Distros whose reliability is unknown to me or others:
- http://www.soundmass.com/show_cat.php?catid=49 [Australia]
- http://www.rebellionstamp.com/site/produtos?tipo=Patch [Portugal]
- http://www.blackscaped.de/Merchandise/Patches:::94_99.html [Germany]
- http://www.christhuntproductions.de/osc/catalog/default.php?cPath=106_10... [European country]
- http://crushuntilmadnessdistro.com/sub-category.asp?cID=0&scID=46&mID=-1... [U.S.]
- http://shop.einheit-produktionen.de/index.php?cPath=37&osCsid=c74230fdff... [Germany]
- http://www.eisenton.com/shop/ [Germany]
- http://metalnegro.com/ [Ecuador/U.S.]
- http://www.metalboerse.de/index.php/cat/c8_kleine-Aufnaeher.html/XTCsid/... [Germany]
- http://metalfighters.com/shop/index.php [Greece]
- http://shops.channeladvisor.de/epages/237049_1.sf/en_US/?ObjectPath=%2FS... [Germany]
- http://www.blackenedmoon.com/store/ [U.S.]
- http://www.speedy-promotion.com/index.php/cat/c6_Patches.html/XTCsid/ac3... [Germany]
- http://warheadshop.webs.com/ [Unknown]
- http://www.wolftyr.com/apparel-p-1.html [U.S.]
- http://shop.obscure-abhorrence.com/?lang=en [Germany]
- http://www.casusbellimusica.com/shop/chur-logo-p-367.html [Russia]
- http://www.autopsykitchen.com/storeMain.php [U.S.]
- http://www.grindheadrecords.com/catalog/ [Australia]
- http://www.rhythmrockstore.com/ [Mexico?]
- http://easthate.com/catalog/index.php?language=EU [Poland]
- http://distro.todestrieb.co.uk/ [U.K.]
- http://www.heavymetalonline.co.uk/index.html [U.K.?]
- http://www.drakkar666.com/drakkar/list.php?lang=2&path=10&letter=0&actio... [France]
- http://www.aphelionproductions.net/page2.htm [Unknown]
- http://laden.platten-firma.de/ [Germany]
- http://shop.undercover-records.de/?lang=en [Germany]
- http://store.nightgauntgraphics.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=266&... [Unknown]
- http://www.cd-russia.com/index.php?route=common/home [Russia]
- http://www.steinklang.at/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=44&sort=20... [Austria]
- http://shop.zyklonbproductions.com/index.php?cPath=36 [Greece]
- http://www.darkhorizon666.com/DarkHorizonRecords.htm [U.S.]
- http://shop.supremacy-through-intolerance.org/ [Germany]
- http://www.blackmetal-lusitania.com//store/xtcommerce/index.php/cat/c9_P... [Portugal]
- http://www.merchantofdeath.e-plaza.de/___shop/index.php/cat/c18_Patches.... [Germany]
- http://ominous-domain.com/shop/index.php?cPath=27_43 [U.S./Canada]]
- http://www.cfprod.com/nh/index6.php [Finland]
(Physical store(Lahti): http://www.sarvilevyt.fi/)
- http://astarothmetalshop.com/index.php?cPath=28 [Portugal]
- http://hammerbolt.ncse.pl/sklep/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=5908e7b59b883f... [Poland]
- http://www.foreverplaguedrecords.com/Store/tabid/62/Default.aspx [U.S.]
- http://kunsthauch.com/index1.htm [Russia]
- http://www.stellarwinter.org/eng.html [Russia]
- http://soundage.org/shop/ [Russia]
- http://www.mistressdancerecords.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=ar... [Portugal]
- http://www.cocainacopia.com/ [U.S.]
- http://www.eternityrecords.de/base/index.php [Germany]
- http://www.angeldust-mailorder.de/ [Germany]
- http://www.thoseopposedrecords.com/catalog/ [France]
- http://www.propaganda666.com/666.htm [Ukraine]
- http://zinarthan.com/distro.html [Australia]
- http://yar-productions.com/yarshop/index.php?osCsid=64d440551839a152f135... [Russia]
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ShieldbitersValhalla on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 06:39

For example, layout facts something like this:

From: Hells Head Bangers. [U.S.]
To: [U.S.]
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took a few weeks at most, well packaged.

From: Abyss Records. [U.S.]
To: [U.S.]
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took a few weeks at most, well packaged.

From: Blazing Productions. [Netherlands]
To: [U.S.]
Payment: Money in letter (1st order)/Paypal(2nd order).
Shipping took about two months, well packaged. The first took longer of course because I paid with an envelope.

subhumanbeing on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 07:27

From: HellsHeadbangers (US)
To: US
Payment: Paypal
Shipping: 3-5 days
This is my favorite mailorder. Great communication, super fast shipping... perfect all around as far as I'm concerned.

From: Metal Boerse (Germany)
To: US
Payment: Paypal (via Ebay)
Shipping took 4 days for a patch to arrive.

From: IndieMerch.com (US)
To: US
Payment: Paypal
Shipping: 3 days for a CD, 3 days for a patch

subhumanbeing on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 07:29

From: Kneel Before The Masters Throne (Germany)
To: US
Payment: Paypal (via Ebay)
Shipping: 8 days

subhumanbeing on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 07:37

makes me chuckle because i literally keep logs of when i order stuff, when it ships and the day it arrives... OCD/impatience... sure, why not!

ShieldbitersValhalla on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 08:10

Haha, hell yeah. I just record numbers and dates, but I should start recording shipping times too.

Plague on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 08:41

From: Square Deal (squaredealonline.com) US
To: US
Payment: Visa gift card
Shipping: 3-5 days. Good experience!

ShieldbitersValhalla on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 21:31

Yes, it will give people confidence when looking to shop. Plus save people tons of time and money, instead of trying to figure out which distros are serious or not by themselves.

PowerThrashingDeath on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 21:05

You can add the Goddess Of Desire Mailorder (www.goddess.nl) to the reliable ones, I've been ordering stuff from them for 5 years or so. They have a very fast shipment. In the summer their stand is touring throughout whole of Europe, standing on every big festival.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Sun, 16/10/2011 - 21:28

Ah, yes. I'd forgotten about that one. I've ordered from them too. I'll add to/reorganize the list when I get a chance.

FarFarNorth on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 01:40

Great idea!

You can confidently add Red Stream redstream.org to the list of reliable ones, it may be my favorite distro ever and great experience each time.

Red Stream (US):
3 - 5 day shipping to US address, shipping is free.
Paypal payment.
Ordered from them many times from 2007 to now, each time prompt shipment, well packaged CDs, 100% satisfaction.

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Another reliable distro is PaganFlames.com - this used to be "blackmetalDVDs.com" back in like 2003 full of bootleg concerts, but since then morphed into a mainly black and pagan themed distro with this new domain name.

PaganFlames (US)
average a week shipping to US address- again free shipping
Payments through Paypal
Been ordering from them since 2005, seems like it's just one guy running it out of his home but with 100% dedication and integrity. Always packages orders well, always on time within expected time frame.

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TrollZorn (Germany): a full scale metal distro + shop, CDs and shirts and "pagan"-historic Germanic-Nordic paraphernalia.
trollzorn.de/store

Shipping time from Trollzorn (Germany) to Iceland: about a week.
Paypal payments.
Ordered from them twice so far, but have been in touch with Stefan and Kai, the guys who run it, many more times with questions, and each time got helpful responses. Entirely legit shop and run by legit folks. They even agreed to hold one shirt for me for over a month until more stuff arrived that I planned to order too, just so it could all be mailed in one shipment and I could save on shipping. Great ordering experience, highly recommended.

I can vouch and swear by all three of the abovenamed distros, entirely trustworthy and they won my support.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 06:19

I don't know how I forgot about Red Stream. Yes, that one is definitely going up there!

bls-georg-pantera on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 09:37

From: Rebellionstamp.com [Brazil]
To: [The Netherlands]
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took about 6 months!!!... well packaged and great patches but the shippingtime was just a hell and made me lose confidience in the guy....

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From: Crustpunks.com [U.S.]
To: [The Netherlands]
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took 1-2 weeks!!! :) great service,packed good! and got everything, except the heresy backpatch but the guys also putted a note with it and refunded me the money of the backpatch plus a small extra before it arrived :)

lak89 on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 15:24

From: CM Distro (US)
To: Melbourne, Australia (back when I was still there)
Payment: Paypal
Ordered from them twice, completely reliable, but shipping took about a month and a week on average.

From: Blackened Moon (US)
To: Melbourne, Australia
Payment: Paypal
I ordered a couple of patches from there, they're reliable but the site isn't very user-friendly, I had some problems with managing the paypal cart. The guy also came across as slightly hostile to me (answering my e-mails in all capital letters). But that aside, shipping only took 2-3 weeks, so the bottom line is that they're reliable. Hope that clears things up for you Shieldbiters.

From: Unique Leader Records (US)
To: Hong Kong
Payment: Paypal
Very reliable, I ordered a shirt from there and it came in 3 weeks. Shipping internationally was just $2, I think they're offering $2 flat for shipping anywhere, could someone clear this up for me?

lak89 on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 15:37

If we may, perhaps we could extend the scope of the discussion to include ebay sellers, as I feel there is one user worthy of being mentioned.

From: genxgear (US)
To: Melbourne, Australia/Hong Kong
Payment: Paypal
The merch they sell lean towards the more pricey side (depending on what's pricey for you), but shipping is extremely fast. They ship on Tuesdays and Fridays only, but I have ordered from Australia and Hong Kong, and each time it only took a week to arrive.

FarFarNorth on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 19:05

Yes, genxgear is reliable.
Been ordering from them since 2004 and each time professional service. My shirts arrived folded in plastic bags, brand new official merch, they sell no bootlegs there.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 05:06

Thanks for the references, I'll have to look through those! Due to the nature of eBay, I don't think it is fully necessary to list every reliable eBay seller here. Simply because that is already pretty much taken care of by eBay's own built-in feedback system. But by all means, if there is a non-eBay user distro/website you ordered from, and it went well, then I'll try to add it here.

It is a good idea though. Maybe someone else can make another forum post specifically for eBay sellers.

southerncrossripper on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 16:37

Black Metal Lusitania, Supremacy through Intolerance, Warhead Metal Shop, Undercover Records and Metalboerse are all 100% reliable...
Also Terratur possessions, Nuclear War Now Prod., Heavy Steel Records, Abyss Records and Deathstrike.de

FarFarNorth on Mon, 17/10/2011 - 19:20

From: deathgasm (ebay seller, based in US)
To: US contact address
Paypal payment
Delivery time: within 5 days
Deathgasm has also its own website distro, but an ebay storefront too. Reliable and trustworthy. I only ordered from their ebay store so far though, for the feedback benefit.

But it's easy to see on ebay who is reliable, based on feedback...

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Regimental Records distro (US)
To: US contact address - within a week.
Paypal
Been ordering from Joe who runs this distro for about ten years now. Another small home-run distro, but 100% dedication and reliability. Sometimes in the past when I emailed for available stock, it took a while to get a response (dude works for a living apart from running this so it can be understandable), but each time I actually placed my orders and paid, my CDs arrived promptly without delay.
This is my longest-running "buyer/seller" online distro relationship for lack of better words, and comes fully recommended.

lak89 on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 05:10

Yea I agree with the feedback thing, guess I overlooked that haha

lak89 on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 05:27

You can also add Bucket Of Afterbirth Productions to the list, they're reliable.

Nasvai-Punk_Max on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 12:04

does any one knows if Rebelion stamp sells worldwide?
I can`t figure out anything there be cause don`t know language...

Nasvai-Punk_Max on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 12:08

OH and haave anyone ordered from here?
http://www.backstreetmerch.com/

Phosphorous_Redeemer on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 17:35

My least favorable is redstream.org, i bought a rotting christ longsleeve with sleeve print on each sleeve, and they sent me one with sleeve print on one sleeve only. I've ordered 3-4 times from them, and it usually takes awhile, with absolutely no communication.

FarFarNorth on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 17:49

Maybe shipping time depends on state to state proximity? But then they're in FL and my US contact is in IL, still got there under a week (based on orders from past couple months). Hmm communication, the one time I had a question and shot redstream an email it was answered the same day, but yeah when placing an order there's no notice to say that package has shipped, guess it´s more or less assumed.

Phosphorous_Redeemer on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 20:48

I waited like 2 and a half weeks for 1 patch that i ordered from the site, but my official possessed patch i got from theur ebay came much quicker.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Tue, 18/10/2011 - 20:44

I've only ordered once, and from their eBay storefront. It arrived in about a week, maybe two.

VoiceOfTheSoul on Tue, 25/10/2011 - 23:17

From: Over-Zone [Italy]
To: [U.S.] (KS)
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took about 16 days, Very happy w/ seller communication.

From:http://shop.metaldevastation.com [U.S.]
To: [U.S.]
Payment: Paypal.
Shipping took about a week, the only thing I really didn't like was the fact that they said they would send a confirmation email saying that my order had been shipped.

Never Happened.

When I contacted asked when it would be shipped they never replied.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Tue, 25/10/2011 - 23:46

Hell yeah!! In fact, I'm going through a custom order with Over-Zone right now.

Thanks! Updated.

FarFarNorth on Wed, 26/10/2011 - 05:07

On Over-Zone custom embroidered patches: is their black backing material the polished 'shiny' type or the black matte type? Know what I mean? Some embroidered patches have the look as if they're sewn on black polyester, while others have that black matte that really makes the white threads stand out (like the logo patches that TrollZorn sells, for example). Wondering what patch material OverZone uses. Thinking to employ a custom patchmaker soon.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Wed, 26/10/2011 - 05:40

I think I know what you're talking about. If you look at my vest, you can see that some of the patches have a sort of shine to them, it's like when you look at them up close, it's as if they are made of a bunch of little beads or something. The Gorefest strip is a good example. The Striborg and Horn patches actually came from Over-Zone; their shine can be seen a little. That is the type of patch that Over-Zone embroiders logos into.
http://tshirtslayer.com/item/shieldbiters-vest-18apr2011

Also, I think the black matte type of backing you're talking about is like the Equilibrium patch. That one actually did come from TrollZorn. So that photo should give a pretty good comparison, since both sorts of patches you are talking about are in the same photo with the same lighting.

VoiceOfTheSoul on Thu, 27/10/2011 - 02:18

I haven't looked @ my smaller patches hard enough, but I was slightly surprised w/ my backpatch due to how shiny the back was.

I ordered the Slayer, Wehrmacht and Death patches from overzone http://tshirtslayer.com/patch/recent-purchases

EDIT: I just realized you said Custom patches, I have no information on that and can't help you there.

FarFarNorth on Thu, 27/10/2011 - 03:54

cool, thanks guys that helped. The embroidered patches on my (still in theoretical planning stage) battle jacket will be riding next to a printed backpatch with black border, and seems like the less "shiny" factor in embroidered backing material the better, or else the different shades of black will really clash instead of merge into a single background blackness. Gonna give it more thought... But good feedback for OverZone spells quality which is equally important.

lak89 on Wed, 26/10/2011 - 10:47

That's great about Overzone, I have an order on hold with them at the moment and communication is just excellent.

Giggity666 on Wed, 26/10/2011 - 14:10

I am never gonna purchase at Unique Leader anymore i waited fucking 5 months and they have send me the wrong stuff and the promised me to send some other stuff because they were sorry . and thats like 1 month ago they are fucking retards ....

ShieldbitersValhalla on Fri, 28/10/2011 - 03:46

Alright, I put them in a "mixed feedback list", because someone else said that they had a pretty good experience with them.

lak89 on Fri, 28/10/2011 - 07:35

Ah sorry to hear about that.

Mental-Vortex on Fri, 28/10/2011 - 06:49

From: Guttershock (US)
To: Netherlands
Payment: Paypal
Since I don't have a creditcard but just a regular bank account,it took like 5 days before the money was transferred,but my Voivod backpatch arrived in 1 week after that.

I can't deny I heard some negative stories about Guttershock,but I didn't get problems with that site.

ShieldbitersValhalla on Sat, 29/10/2011 - 00:55

From: The Old Outpost(Canada)
To: U.S.
Payment: Paypal
I actually made an order in around July 2011, but there was some sort of error, and my order wasn't processed at all. I eventually sent an e-mail around mid-October, and got a quick reply. After receiving my e-mail, the guy realized what had happened. The item I had ordered was officially no longer in stock at that point and he was ok with an exchange/refund, although he did end up looking through all of his boxes and found a copy of the item I was looking for. Very good communication, and highly recommended. Instead of being some kind of sleezy asshole, he actually went and looked to make sure if it was there or not, which I was particularly impressed with.

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