lluvia "enigma" tape edition

Thu, 03/08/2017 - 02:00

from GreySun.
30 pieces were made and sold out within minutes.
lucky me found this one by trade later.
explicitly meant to never (officially) appear in digital format.
in difference to the 100 vinyl editions there's a necklace included.

in every aspect an outstanding, breathtaking, superior work of art.

Other Collectable

Not for sale or trade

Year: 2017

Bands:

Lluvia

In Group: cassette or die

PatchThePlanet on Thu, 03/08/2017 - 05:08

Fuck!

I'm confused though, not only is this record available online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Sv8ossQSE) but it is also being monetized for ad money by its uploader....

non-existent user on Thu, 03/08/2017 - 08:32

that was almost inevitable i assume.
the artist can express his will but once something is released it's no longer under his control.
instead the laws of the market take effect immediately (plus human stupidity, greed and dishonour).
it's completely up to the recipient then whether he respects the creator's intention or not.

but nonetheless curse & shame to the one responsible for that!

PatchThePlanet on Thu, 03/08/2017 - 15:58

That's a shame, at the same time though, I'm aware that at least two of the songs were already available through Bandcamp. I wonder if part of the problem was that the manifesto was only available with this tape version. Perhaps if it were included with the Vinyl then some of this could have been prevented?

Either way, I think the uploaders / labels should respect the artist's wishes (unless the label already paid for the right to stream and monetize ad revenue and/or streaming was agreed to in the contract). It saddens me to know that greed (which is essentially the driving emotion here) has won out on the purity of the art.

I myself am not immune to this, while I haven't and don't plan to upload an artist's work online, I certainly have listened to private releases on Youtube. It would be hypocritical not to point out that I benefit from the online distribution of private releases, but that being said, I would happily forfeit this pleasure to abide by the wishes of the artist. (Of course, this abdication only goes so far, I obviously am not going to do everything an artist wants, like fucking kill myself).

That being said, it does give me a great deal of pleasure to know that, in other instances, there continue to be private releases in circulation that have yet to make rounds on the net and people for whom concepts like honor still matter.

non-existent user on Thu, 03/08/2017 - 18:50

according to the pictures on discogs the statement was also included in the vinyls.
the problem is, that nobody who purchased this box really swore that "oath" the artist wishes shall not be broken.
even if it's a very special and seldom item, in the end all one had to do to get one was to be a quick smartphone wizard.
and that doesn't keep passionless moneymakers away (rather the opposite).

i have no clue how to avoid this because it's human, all too fucking human.
maybe the way kanwulf did it with the semper fidelis box once, which you could only get after writing to him first and giving something very personal in exchange.
i give you my art, my creation, a manifestation coming from the deepest of my heart, but only when i receive or get to know something equally meaningful from you as well.
i'm sure very few of these (if one at all) ever showed up at ebay or discogs.

ekbalam on Tue, 22/08/2017 - 04:19

That request came with the tapes and the vinyl releases.

non-existent user on Thu, 03/08/2017 - 21:11

It feels very unnecessary for people to upload this. It isn't as if you'll never be able to listen to this band digitally. They have other material available digitally. It's one release that they want to keep off digital. If you're a fan and you really MUST listen to this, get a cheap turntable or something or even borrow one to rip yourself a digital copy for your own listening. To upload it this way is just disrespectful.