Very nice. But for so much cultural awareness, I wonder why Hoest does not use Norwegian runes instead of those reconstructed 'pop-Germanic' ones from older futhark that are literally everywhere else in metal these days.
Runes are like a can of worms, so little is known for certain and so many different theories and interpretations... But safe to say some kind of chronological progression among the rune rows does exist. Rows with a runic character for each letter (like on this shirt - commonly known as Elder futhark and yep many Danish stones with those, tends to be pre-Medieval), and rows like the so called Younger futhark with less characters (T and D share same letter, B and P, K and G) But it's still more of a product of modern mind that there is an idea of strictly one rune for one letter/sound, even with elder futhark folks back then were spelling shit any way they wanted and those inscriptions are still a bitch to read :D More phonetic and oral based than the way we think of spelling today.
In a way it makes sense for metal artists to use the letter for letter runic style, to make it legible for audience trying to decipher the script...
By Norwegian runes I actually meant the so-called Bryggen (Bergen) runes, an assload of those inscriptions on random objects has been found right there in Hoest's hometown (check them out, really cool stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryggen_inscriptions )
These are from the "Dark Medieval Times" (ha) and not as old as viking age period, but I was just thinking that since Taake proudly uses the Hordaland province coat of arms in their logo, it would have been so cool if they incorporated also the medieval runic script of those local Bergen inscriptions rather than the generic elder futhark. I mean, there's still that medieval Norwegian heritage right there, even if those runes do happen to be post-Christian conversion. Then again, Taake does write lyrics in archaic Norwegian, so that's just me nerding out and nitpicking :D
This is awesome. You seem to be the winner on the site when it comes to Scandinavian history and Mythology! I am much less of a history student than I used to be unfortunately.
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...yeah, that was actually really interesting.
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@ Harba∂r
actually im not sure about runic, but your idea on an everyday version and a official version of a language actually (iirc) is what happened to hieroglyphic. there were different versions called hieratic, demotic and hieroglyphic. over time the everyday versions eventually became more acceptable for more "serious" use. Same with traditional vs simplified mandarin.
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Very nice. But for so much cultural awareness, I wonder why Hoest does not use Norwegian runes instead of those reconstructed 'pop-Germanic' ones from older futhark that are literally everywhere else in metal these days.
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Hahaha, I know what you mean. I don't like those types of runes on the back.
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Runes are like a can of worms, so little is known for certain and so many different theories and interpretations... But safe to say some kind of chronological progression among the rune rows does exist. Rows with a runic character for each letter (like on this shirt - commonly known as Elder futhark and yep many Danish stones with those, tends to be pre-Medieval), and rows like the so called Younger futhark with less characters (T and D share same letter, B and P, K and G) But it's still more of a product of modern mind that there is an idea of strictly one rune for one letter/sound, even with elder futhark folks back then were spelling shit any way they wanted and those inscriptions are still a bitch to read :D More phonetic and oral based than the way we think of spelling today.
In a way it makes sense for metal artists to use the letter for letter runic style, to make it legible for audience trying to decipher the script...
By Norwegian runes I actually meant the so-called Bryggen (Bergen) runes, an assload of those inscriptions on random objects has been found right there in Hoest's hometown (check them out, really cool stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryggen_inscriptions )
These are from the "Dark Medieval Times" (ha) and not as old as viking age period, but I was just thinking that since Taake proudly uses the Hordaland province coat of arms in their logo, it would have been so cool if they incorporated also the medieval runic script of those local Bergen inscriptions rather than the generic elder futhark. I mean, there's still that medieval Norwegian heritage right there, even if those runes do happen to be post-Christian conversion. Then again, Taake does write lyrics in archaic Norwegian, so that's just me nerding out and nitpicking :D
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This is awesome. You seem to be the winner on the site when it comes to Scandinavian history and Mythology! I am much less of a history student than I used to be unfortunately.
...yeah, that was actually really interesting.
@ Harba∂r
actually im not sure about runic, but your idea on an everyday version and a official version of a language actually (iirc) is what happened to hieroglyphic. there were different versions called hieratic, demotic and hieroglyphic. over time the everyday versions eventually became more acceptable for more "serious" use. Same with traditional vs simplified mandarin.