I like the idea of a metal band having some what more of a hardcore influence rather than lets say metal influence i do listen to some Ozzy and Black Sabbath from time to time but otherwise than that most of the stuff i like to listen needs a lil bit of hardcore influence like chaos ad/roots era wich i feel like have the most influence from the 80's and early 90's nyc hardcore anyways what would be in your opinion the most hardcore adjecent metal band (deatccore, grindcore, metalcore not included)
How do you categorize straight up crossover bands then? D.R.I, Nuclear Assault, the Accused, early C.O.C, and previously mentioned S.O.D? Metal or hardcore? Great discussion topic BTW you have me engaged
Depends in my opinion on their starting motives S.o.d. was always those guys from CBGB same as Leeway despite a huge part of them having a lot of trash influence i feel like they have always had the idea to be an NYC hardcore band while nuclear assault i don't see them as the type of guys to go around and hang with Agnostic front, Madball, Merauder, Skarhead and ect while S.O.D, Carnivore and Leeway have specifically hanged around with those specific guys plus Life of Agony,H2O,Crown of thornz, Murphy's law and much more
It is probably be the other way around in this case, but some Japanese hardcore bands from the 80's have quite a lot of Heavy / Speed Metal influences in their sound, many of those bands are even categorized as their own subgenre which is called Burning Spirits.
In my opinion those are the most essential releases:
G.I.S.M. - Detestation
Ghoul - Jerusalm
Gastunk - Gastunk
Bastard - Wind Of Pain
Death Side - Bet On The Possibility
Crow - Bloody Tear
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Carnivore, Obituary, internal Bleeding, Bolt Thrower come to mind
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I feel like Carnivore is a Leeway/S.o.d. type of situation same goes for very very early type o negative i do agree with obituary though
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How do you categorize straight up crossover bands then? D.R.I, Nuclear Assault, the Accused, early C.O.C, and previously mentioned S.O.D? Metal or hardcore? Great discussion topic BTW you have me engaged
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Depends in my opinion on their starting motives S.o.d. was always those guys from CBGB same as Leeway despite a huge part of them having a lot of trash influence i feel like they have always had the idea to be an NYC hardcore band while nuclear assault i don't see them as the type of guys to go around and hang with Agnostic front, Madball, Merauder, Skarhead and ect while S.O.D, Carnivore and Leeway have specifically hanged around with those specific guys plus Life of Agony,H2O,Crown of thornz, Murphy's law and much more
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It is probably be the other way around in this case, but some Japanese hardcore bands from the 80's have quite a lot of Heavy / Speed Metal influences in their sound, many of those bands are even categorized as their own subgenre which is called Burning Spirits.
In my opinion those are the most essential releases:
G.I.S.M. - Detestation
Ghoul - Jerusalm
Gastunk - Gastunk
Bastard - Wind Of Pain
Death Side - Bet On The Possibility
Crow - Bloody Tear