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HallowedBeThyThrashFri, 28/01/2011 - 06:10

There's a large underground scene of skinheads where I live. When I saw D.R.I. there where a bunch of skins in the crowd goose stepping and seig heil-ing. Do skins ever pose as a threat to your local metal community?


overkill386

ive only seen 3 skinheads when ive gone to shows in my whole life.there not much of a threat here in L.A,its rare to even see one. here the big groups are metalheads,gangsters,punks and those people that ride there speed bikes in a massive cock fest

Terroristic-Hammerings

no skins here

where do you live man?

mayhempunk666

i feel sorry for you having to put up with fsu assholes

mayhempunk666

theres alot of skins in my city's outer lying areas but ive only seen a few at shows...they dont cause too many problems

HallowedBeThyThrash

I live in Huntington beach. Supposedly the skinhead capital of orange county.

Bayernpirat

They have nothing to say on our festivals in Germany. One right arm in the air and these will be put off from the festival ground - DIE NAZI SCUM

Daimonion

It´s wrong, that every skinhead is a nazi.

"The political spectrum within the skinhead scene ranges from the far right to the far left, although many skinheads are apolitical." (Wikipedia)

Bacteria13

A skinhead I once knew (he was a customer at the place I used to work) landscaped our back garden once. Funny, he placed his mug of tea on the grass and my dog drank it. He wasn't impressed ...

BlueEyedBeast

I never did see any ideological significance in shaving one's head.

fuckyouiworkforslayer

skin heads get fucked up!!! fuck skin heads every time i go to a show they get there ass beat and they are the target in the pi

whiteravenmetal

My best friend is a Skin Head off R.A.S.H, He like a few of metal stuff, and I like a few of Oi!. Here in Bogota is a lot of Skins, Metalheads, punks, etc... a big escene, I support the Skin Head idelas, anti-nazism, anti-fascism, and racial equality.

HallowedBeThyThrash

what's R.A.S.H.?

Manu Toxik Waste

Red and Anarchist SkinHeads

PrinceAdam

I don't see how anyone can consider that any better than a Nazi skinhead. Fuck this bullshit, Communism is wrongest most ridiculous (largely known) political ideology known to man. From National Socialism came some horrible atrocities, but the ideology makes more sense than the Communist doctrine. You gotta be moderate, you can't follow any believe too stringently.

but hey, that's just PA's two pesos.

eddiethehead666

fuck nazis. theres actually alot in my city but i never see them at any shows, thankfully

fuckyouiworkforslayer

i was watching flogging molly yesterday and some fucking skin head slammed me on the fucking ground
but than a other guy helped me out thanks!

diamondmaster93

Saw some of them when I saw Raubtier last year, didn't realy bother me thou.

fuckyouiworkforslayer

he bothered me cause he was goose walking whatever the fuck it is and i knocked him down

fuckyouiworkforslayer

he bothered me cause he was goose walking whatever the fuck it is and i knocked him down

ToxikAssault

I know one skinhead, but hes not a nazi.

crooked_cross666

i beat a skins ass in CVS for spitting on my confederate flag on my truck and callin me a racist

ShieldbitersValhalla

NICE JOB!!! I would do the same to any ass wipe that had a giant glass of the Yankee cool-aid. If only they knew the crimes of the Union, they would hate the U.S. flag instead of the Confederate flag. It makes me fuckin sick. Our culture is oppressed and despised, but we will not fade!

BlueEyedBeast

+2

crooked_cross666

yep the south will rise again!!! heritage not hate brother

Phosphorous_Redeemer

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!

mayhempunk666

you damned hicks hahaha jk. my black side of the family is from Louisiana so i dont give a shit when i see Confederate flags. unless its an idiot trying to use it as a racist symbol. i just slap him with a history book

ShieldbitersValhalla

Haha, seriously. History wins! There were native americans as well as an example of at least one black man who willingly fought for the south, but you won't hear about anything like that in school. Imagine a conflict occurs between two nations, one loses, then the descendants of both nations are taught stories that are twisted; then shown hollywood movies containing racist people waving the Confederate flag, making these kids connect the two, forever. Then ignorant people who are racist think it's cool the show Confederate flags, passing on the lies, and so forth, and so forth. It is a heinous crime to pervert facts on a scale this large, and spread tales of a "Heroic, righteous union, invading the south to stop slavery"? I don't think almost 300,000 people died to keep slaves. They were there to fight for their independence from the empire. Secession was good for several baltic, slavic, and middle eastern nations, but not the CSA?!?! Metaphorically, it's a lot like the relationship between the rebellion and the empire in Starwars. As opposed to the other way around.

crooked_cross666

i couldnt say it any better man the CSA were the real heros they had way more heart and soul in there whole body then the union had in one thumb like i said before haritage not hate!!

ShieldbitersValhalla

Hell yeah!

mayhempunk666

you should come to California and see how the Civil War is taught...you just might have a heart attack, its that bad

FarFarNorth

There's a really cool book that opened my eyes on a different view of the South than what the big media wants everyone to believe, called "Confederates in the Attic." It's just some journalist's travelogue through the CSA states tracing local people's attitudes to that war, but the guy is not an opinionated asshole and lets those people he interviews speak for themselves. Really shows the humanity behind the Confederate flag through those individual accounts, and its deeprooted cultural significance to the region. In effect the Union single handedly destroyed the South's economy and made the economic disbalance the way it remains to this day. The South was on the way to freeing the slaves anyway, and at the onset of the war the North kept insisting on wanting to 'preserve the union' and not playing on slavery at all, till much later. It is deplorable how biased the representation of this war has been. My sympathies to CSA.

mayhempunk666

im gonna check out this book. based on being a black in america, i can safely say that if the north hadnt been such cunts to the south through out the 1800's there would have been far less racial strife in then and now. i agree with everything you said

crooked_cross666

i might have to check that book out myself and the union were cunts to the south they tryed to control the south and hated them cause they did things a little differently than they did and why should the north have cared they were way more technologically advanced then the south and not all southerners owned slaves only the rich ones most of the south were poor and didnt own slaves they did everything themselves thats why southerners were stronger and bigger than northerners

Kanan

Did anyone see that episode of Bullshit about affirmative action where they interviewed this old black guy who loves the south and their people and walks around the town square everyday in a confederate outfit waving the confederate flag? He was also demanding that people in the south get money for their farms that were destroyed.

ShieldbitersValhalla

I never have seen that. Sounds interesting.

crooked_cross666

i saw that. i didnt know what to think

wehavearrived49

I agree with a few privious posts. Not all skinheads are National Socialist Aryan pride dingleberries. An example of good skinheads would be that of Blasphemy from Canada. They have a black member and call themselves "black metal skinheads".

DevilzForce

You are aware that caller of the storms is as far right as they get? I'm guessing not XD

xasthur1349

Can you expound further on this?

wehavearrived49

Does anyone here have the skinhead look (non-national socialist)? Do those not associated with metal often suspect your a neo-nazi or something? My step brother has a "Mr. Clean" head, loves bands like Blasphemy and REVENGE, and wears old school conductor boots and he told me that some snotty valley girl chick ran up to him at the local bar and said "I love Jews" right to his face. He was piss drunk and actually replied with the following: You are a stupid cunt who came out of some cunts cunt who also came out of some cunts cunt!

ShieldbitersValhalla

Lol.

FarFarNorth

One time I was taking a course on neo-Germanic ideologies, and there was a guy in the class with a bald head, one of those clean-cut politically-correct types. lol his baldness was really making him feel insecure, kept complaining how he doesn't dare do his class readings in public transport cause doesn't wanna give a wrong impression. Mind you, never wore a hat or a wig... Those kinds always desperately need something to feel insecure about.

Bayernpirat

I know Skinhead is NOT the same as a Nazi but thought it´s funny to show:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x2TdiOtYc0

BlueEyedBeast

Not to glorify neo-nazis, but does anyone else find it ironic that everyone here *hates* neo-nazis because of how *hateful* neo-nazis are? Or that people here brag about beating up skinheads, ostensibly because of how violent skinheads tend to be? XD
In the words of Prozak; "Even if your dogma is 100% against something, if your methods and values are the same outside of that, you are what you despise."

ShieldbitersValhalla

Haha, pretty much. I don't hate nazis though. I used to be one. I don't hate many people really. Someone generally has to earn my hate by way of their actions/personality. And people of all sorts know how to be dumb asses. It's really up to the individual.

Berz_Toxicdeath

jaja yeah its kind of ironic,smart words my friend smart words and dont get me wrong i totally back you up on that but sometimes fire can only be fought whit fire.

DevilzForce

Laughable.

I say it's lies cuz it's all big talk about beating untill someone flatout says they're one and watches them cower because of it. It's usually the other way round

ShieldbitersValhalla

To further illustrate the difference between Skins and Nazis, there are even Christian Skinheads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzQDO6hpe2w&feature=related

I can barely understand any of the video, because my vocabulary is very weak. But still. Interesting.

Bayernpirat

they hate Thor and Odin, so I hate this Christian Skins

ShieldbitersValhalla

Oh, so thats what they're saying. I need to expand my vocabulary big time, so that I can understand videos/songs.

megadeth1818

well you know what they say. faeries wear boots...

mayhempunk666

i wear boots and im not a fairy

ShieldbitersValhalla

I've never heard of that saying. Haha, brutal-ass, para-militaristic goregrind faeries!

mayhempunk666

ah black sabbath song lol

ShieldbitersValhalla

Ah, now I see the reference. Sorry, I never learned/listened to too much of the classics. Just a little bit of Kansas, Boston, Scorpions.

DevilzForce

Untill they're in your neck ;)

PrinceAdam

I've never seen any skins around here. Of any kind.

Kanan

There's not that many white people here in PG and most of the white people are so liberal and run around yelling "CHANGE!! OBAMA!!" like in that South Park episode. However, the white people that aren't all "I feel the pain that my African American brothers and sisters felt 200 years ago even though I'm just a upper-middle class white girl whos daddy buys me whatever the hell I want" and most Asians dislike black people because they tend to be uneducated and obnoxious here. (I'm a semi-poor white/indian intellectual, btw.) And even black people hate mexicans here because they always mess up your order at McDonald's. And a lot of the black people hate jews here. That's why me and my japanese friend hate most of the black population (also because of affirmative action. Women, black people, and hispanics get help getting into college, especially if they want to study science. The real group that's discriminated against is white and asian males. My brother got a full scholarship that was purely academically based despite his shitty grades because he is a genius and destroyed the SAT and it annoys us so much that there are all these programs that give money to average students just because of their race or gender) here because they go around calling people like me racist, then they start insulting other religions. Sorry if it's hard to understand or read, I'm tired and angry.
-Kanan

ShieldbitersValhalla

Not to offend anybody, but MOTHER FUCKING-AE!!!! You see exactly what I was seeing inside and outside of highschool. It's a very racist system indeed. That type of shit, combined with the hiphop culture of "scoring" with the white girls is what got me into at least Nationalism in the first place. Now I'm not NS(anymore), but holy shit, I understand what you're saying. Also, by "Indian", do you mean India(Asia) or Native(America)? Sorry, I get confused often when people say Indian.

Kanan

Thank you for not calling me "ignant" or something. And by Indian, I mean Asia. Christopher Columbus was dumb.

ShieldbitersValhalla

Haha hell yeah, good to see some people understand that ChristoCUNT ColCUNTbus was no where near the first foreigner to arrive in the Americas. Before him, Vikings, before them, possibly Chinese, and so forth and so forth. I forgot all the other ones, but highschools need to stfu about that.

megadeth1818

well actually in my highschool we had a whole lesson about geared at making us form an opinion on if columbus really did discover the new world and if he was even significant. also talked about how much of a dick he was to the natives

Adrian

Yeah that's annoying. Even in a world history class I took in college last semester we skipped right over the bit about the vikings even though it was in the textbook! Pisses me off because I'm supposedly in some far distant way descended from Erik the Red

ShieldbitersValhalla

Thats cool.(About your ancestry)

Kanan

That's awesome! I wish I was related to a viking or something. On my mom's side (white) I'm supposed to be descended from some english horse thieves and some german cabinet makers. And on my dad's side (indian) I'm related to some famous hindu priest or something.

PrinceAdam

Racial double standards are a complete fucking joke. As someone of Middle Eastern descent who likes like an average Southern European. I can unbiasedly survey the racial inerworkings of society. It's true White people have heavy pressure on them, they can be so easily scrutinized for anything an overly sensitive person wants to think is offensive. Yet over here racially offensive rhetoric from the (native)Indian population can be heard on a daily basis, it is in no way uncommon to be called "whitey", White-boy", "fucking whitey"etc, while walking through the downtown. I am of course subject to this too and it is a major piss off.

Valhalla: Out of curiosity, what made you leave the NS scene?

mayhempunk666

i agree 100 percent with you. im black and i hate most of the black population for all the above reasons you mentioned. ive met lots of people in my life and i will say that the blacks ive met are 400 times more racist than the white ive met(this includes neo nazis) it also never helped me that when i was younger i lived in a mainly black and latino neighborhood and all the other little kids at my school(i was in the first grade) found out i was half white...bad times everybody haha

BlueEyedBeast

This sort of reminds me of another idiocy that I tend to see cropping up in some places; Not really that only white people can be racist (even though I do see that from time to time), but that it's only racism if it's against non-whites, even if it's against one's own non-white race. Seriously, I heard someone say that there's two types of black people, and that one type were racist for hating the other type. So... BLACK PEOPLE ARE RACIST FOR HATING OTHER BLACK PEOPLE??? WHAT BULLSHIT IS THIS???
I don't care who says what. If you're black, or asian, or whatever else, and you hate, discriminate against, or are biased against white people based on the fact that they're white, then congratulations, YOU ARE A FUCKING RACIST!!!

mayhempunk666

ive kinda a seen that decrease in instances, but during the 08' election that was going on like wild fire. i actually got called an Uncle Tom by a shitload of people since i didnt support obama

bls-georg-pantera

dude how fucking dumb are you?
ever heard of SHARP and RASH?
those are all but racists or nazi´s...in fact they are the opposite of nazi´s and racists lol
go and learn more about something before you comment
here in amsterdam you got alot of anarcho,punk and squatted places where you can find also skinheads and what ik now of those guys is that big part of them aint naziscum
yeah its true you got some naziskinheads that i saw at a gig in the occii and for some sort of reason they started to hit me and some crusties butyeah nazi´s should fuck off and die
NAZIPUNKS,NAZIPUNKS,NAZIPUNKS FUCK OFF!!!

Stronthor

DeathObscuraNecrophagist, read this good and then read it again, because truth has been spoken here. I do not know where in Holland you come from but in our country the redskins movement is pretty big. When stating that all skinheads are nazi, you're actually lowering yourself to that exact same level. In the future, when you're about to post something, please ask yourself if what you want to say has any factual basis or you'll make a huge dumbfuck out of yourself.

DevilzForce

Please.... organisations like sharp and rash and antifa look like what they "fight" more and more everyday. They are the fascists of this century.

Daimonion

The roots of skinhead movement are not political.

And by the way it´s not only for white people: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fYZSfSMpetQ/TVwh1kqMO2I/AAAAAAAAALY/cGBmFF2J3k... (Stomper 98)

DonLittleDuck

It might not be universal but I heard once that most skinheads are nowadays are kinda like punks (ideologically, so mostly are leaning left/anarchists), and those who are people call the typical "racist/nazi" skinheads are called Boneheads, but correct me if i'm wrong.

Turkey-man

Please someone tell me what D.R.I. has to do with NS salute.

grime81

the thrashing man is a human swastika

eddiethemachete89

Actually, not all skinheads are nazis. The nazi skinheads are what people in the punk community would call boneheads. Skinheads didn't originally start out as bigots. Now in this day and age, the non-racist skinheads are known as SHARPs (Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice). There are more real skinheads than boneheads.

satan's radish

Very few around here. And the ones I do meet are lefty/"apolitical", despite my living in the south. Racist skinheads seem to be more of a coastal thing, while racists in the South (and probably the Midwest, to some extent) are predominately good ol' boys and trailer trash with mullets. At any rate, the skinheads I've met were almost invariably smug tough guys with their heads up their asses, regardless of their political affiliations. Not too fond of them, apart from their kind of kinky "rough trade" appeal... Ahem.

RavenEffect

Had a few problems with Skinheads in festivals. I'm into moshing and there's a couple of situations where I was hit in the back of the head by skinheads to a point of almost fainting. Surprisingly, the guys who defend me almost everytime are the punks and usually they beat the shit out of these assholes.

TheJuiceRiver

There are a few skinheads where I'm from. I've never had a problem with them. Lol I didn't see any when I saw Napalm Death. Probably because of the Dead Kennedys song they cover.

StereoDeth

Are people still labeling neo nazis as skinheads?
Skinheads belong to the ska scene. I've seen skinheads of all colors.
I'm not part of the scene, but I'm pretty annoyed by the media still calling neo nazis, skinheads
and therefore labeling skinheads as neo nazis.
Media slaves maybe don't know better, but at least spread the word in the whole heavy scene.
It's a lack of knowledge like the swastika thingy if you know what I mean.
Cheers!

satan's radish

Nazis? No. Obnoxious bullies who go out of their way to be abrasive at best, and to pick fights at worst? Yes. It has nothing to do with their political affiliations. A lot of them are just dicks in my limited experience. I'm conflicted, because I hate cocky assholes. But the bad ass 'tude is also kind of titillating.

DevilzForce

You all have a talked on belief/idea of what a skinhead is.... anyone bothered to ask one about what they think?

Nater90

This.

Client

Today's nazis are not clean shaved usually. They often look the same like an average man. Even more, there are national-socialists among metalheads with long hair.

Snaggletooth

Back in the mid eighties the skins used to beat up on all the long hairs at shows,they would gather and stalk the weak,I knew their leader and he and his clan never bothered me,but it was chaos back then even one of the best clubs got shut down due to them kicking some guys ass that his parents sued the club and that was it,promoters didn't give a shit back then Destruction and Cro Mags for a tour was a total disaster and when Realm and Acrophet opened for Biohazard oh man they owned that,since then that whole skinhead deal died in my parts.

heavymetalskinhead

im a skin :p but i usually end up dressing like a crust punk/metal punk hybrid haha i do wear bomber jackets and such though

Ravishing Grimness

No,not at all.The community here is that all are friends.We dont care.If so,most are highly in Black Metal which get associated with Extreme Rights fundementalists.Which of course is absurd,but nevertheless pretty understandable.

mpdsfoad

I agree!!! WHen it comes down to it its all bout the music!

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