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Biggest dickheads in metal?

JackieChanFan
Wed, 23/08/2017 - 20:20

Anyone who you think comes across as a dick or any run-ins?

Glenn Danzig
Dave Mustaine ( although has has mellowed out a bit in the last couple of years)
Zakk Wylde


emperialmassacre

King ov Hell. The biggest asshole I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with.

On a side note, Rotting Christ are the nicest BM guys ever.

MasterDeath

Strange, he's nice to me!

pigwalk42

+ 1 withemperialmassacre
i know an ex band member and he revealed crazy stuff

formezzano

Fuck yeah,met all of RC's members,really nice guys,I got to take some pictures with their bassist,only thing you see is his massive biceps XD

Ragnor

Opened for Rotting Christ years ago, they're SUPER awesome guys!

Dark Buddha

Tom has always been nice to me? Very friendly and more than helpful.

TooFastForLove

I've known the two brothers from Rotting Christ for some time, and I do agree that they are one of the nicest guys I've met in metal.

bad_american1992

One metal head in my town set his parent's basset hound on fire. That guy was a fuckin' dick!

Nater90

Who the fuck does that....What a cunt.

Isaac Chroner

A lousy piece of shit indeed!

Overactive Imagination

I totally forgot about that! I remembered hearing about it

NISSE666

wtf is wrong with some people?

TheSabbathsCreed

I saw machine head years ago here in Perth. They'd already gone a bit shit by this point. They played a pretty big gig with arch enemy and someone else....can't remember who now, but It was a big show though. Anyhow, someone threw a shoe up on stage, it didn't hit Rob Flynn I don't think, maybe it did, I'm not sure. But Rob proceeded to point out the guy out in the pit and told the crowd to get him, beat him up etc....

I thought this was a total abuse of power and totally put me off machine head completely. That's how people get really fucked up!!! I'll always love burn my eyes and I'm not saying pelting things at bands is acceptable either, but that was not a good way to handle a situation.

Der Todesking

WTF!!! What if some idiots would beat him to shit after the concert!!???

TheSabbathsCreed

Exactly........then he incited a murder potentially. Heat of the moment can get very nasty.....especially with drugs and booze

Claudandus

I remember passing by when Machine Head was playing at Wacken(don't remember witch year). And Robert just comes of as a douchey edgelord overall. Sneaking the word "fuck" into every sentence and posturing like a self absorbed rockstar with a forced "If ya'll don like me you can fukk off!" tone to everything he said.
Some of their music might be okay, I honestly haven't really bothered to look that deeply into them. But that mans childish attitude put me off them for good pretty much.

VMBRAL SPECTRE

yeah, I seen this happen at wu tang gig. some dude shouted something at ghost face and the crowd kicked the fuck out of him, pretty much tore the dude to pieces. The dude was trying to fight ghost though. I think the footage is on YT.

DoctorDeath

me

NISSE666

I don't agree : )=

thegreatsouthernbrainfart

Scott Ian hands down.

kissman

+1

invisible-horizons

He seems like a total tool.

ArchonSatanic

I've always thought Scott Ian seemed like he was more full of himself than anyone else in metal could ever be, even the hair bands. He seriously thinks there is nobody on earth who is cooler than he is.

Inferno

Scott Ian is a sold out Jew York Zionist libtard. He is not pro-We The People.

Nater90

Lars Ulrich.

Couldn't careless if he died.

Influx

Oh honestly to hell with Lars. I lost respect for the guy after that metal documentary they had on tv sometime back and he was all we aren't sell outs everyone else is because they wish they were us.

Nope buddy I am pretty sure there are enough subsets of this genre now that not everyone wants to be you

Nater90

Indeed, I just don't like his arrogant attitude.

DoctorDeath

Have you seen Metallica live?

Nater90

No, I would like to I happen to like other albums apart from the first four that people only like, He's an ok drummer to say the least, But I just don't like his arrogance thinking he's gods gift.

DoctorDeath

man, im SO damn tired of that argument, nearly everyone that thinks someone in metallica is a dick HAS NOT SEEN METALLICA LIVE, media really warps your view

Nater90

I very rarely read what the media posts about them...

No doubt he'd be amazing live, Have you watched Some Kind of Monster? Parts of it he's being a knob.

DoctorDeath

media does not mean just news, media covers anything, film is media, blogs are media, newspapers are media

Nater90

Indeed, Don't watch / read fuck all about them.

Daniel Sodomaniac

Come on Lars playing in horrible nowadays and James singing Jebus :) !!!!
But everybody likes different stuff of course, cheers!

Nater90

Haha I agree Daniel their nothing what they used to be like but I can still appreciate some of their newer stuff. I don't listen often because there is far better out there, But there is bands that have done worse!

Dark Buddha

Yes Doc, twice. 93 and 98 Black Album era Jason Newstead on Bass. Lars was spot on during both gigs, must be the Sydney weather? He nailed both shows.

andermatten

lars ulrich is poo, though I'm still open to be convinced otherwise (i've seen them live, sound was shit though so was the venue)

Nater90

Haha, yes!

Damn that sucks, Hopefully you can see em again and it's better!

Dark Buddha

Venue can be the problem though. Same venue '93 was blistering and crystal clear, top sound and uber loud. '98 the sound was dropped and compressed, disappointing. I don't blame the venue as noise complaints from "good citizens" (Entertainment Center Sydney) forced the issue word has it.
Techies heaven tho' checking out the two 19" rack mount cabs full of odd flashing LED's and levels. Shocked to find their light chasers were bigger than most bands full rig!

Nater90

Hahahahaha, YES! My birthdays coming up hint hint ;)

Thrashattck94

Joey Demaio of Manowar. He's a complete twat, if anything.

MasterDeath

Karl Sanders. Complete and utter douchebag.

Skeaton

Really? I've never met him but I always assumed he was a nice guy. Care to explain?

MasterDeath

Back in 2008. I went to watch Nile,Grave and Belphegor. After Nile's performance I met Karl in the restrooms, I didn't want to bother him or anything, especially in the bathroom where he was brushing his teeth. Also, my ex-gf was waiting for me outside. After taking a leak I went outside and saw him in the corridor and there I told him that they provided one hell of a show for us, that I would be very happy if I can have a quick photo with him. I expected a positive reaction but he said "NO!" and then I said "ok, thanks for the great show though!" BUT my gf at that time saw that I'm talking to him and she immediately took a photo of us, Karl turned to her and yelled FUCK OFF! And stormed upstairs. She didn't even know what was happening, she just saw me talking to him and didn't even know that he said no to taking photos. I was dissapointed to see this kind of reaction from someone who is/might be an idol to his fans. Saying "no" to a photo doesn't bother me, saying "fuck off!" to a girl does.
Nile is still a great band to me, I miss Dallas in the band but on this year's Party San they annihilated!

Gutturalsecrete

DUDE YES KARL IS MEAN! I love Nile but his attitude has got to go! I asked him for a photo and said "Hey can I get a quick photo with you even though I'm sure you're busy" I said that because he was already telling everyone to hurry up and he said "Yeah I'm busy, but okay". He threw his hands in the air and rolled his eyes and walked away fast like a little kid. My friend who is the drummer for Desecrate The Faith asked him for a photo and Karl said not right now and then changed his mind and said "ALRIGHT TAKE THE FUCKING PICTURE ALREADY". I have no idea what's going on in his head but he needs to stop.

parregeaboppe

Alice Cooper, fuckin show off

pan_in_ithyphallic_mirth

No shit on that.

I remember hearing Alice Cooper bitch about The Cure saying they sucked because "all their songs sound depressing, they cant write any other mood". Like upbeat dude?

Also he calls himself like the Godfather of shock rock and horror rock. ... then who was this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ZsWENob1s

parregeaboppe

He also claimed he invented the horns hand sign haha

Der Todesking

That was Gene Simmons who said he invented it... :D

JackieChanFan

Yeah, Gene Simmons is a knobend.

ArchonSatanic

Do Kiss even count as a metal band by today's standards? Anyway he is a fucking douche for the shit he started with King Diamond about his make-up. He is probably my vote for biggest dickhead.

parregeaboppe

Oh shit haha, gotta check my facts better. But still, Alice is a dick xD

Metalheadgamer1970

Gene didn't invent shit, the first one who truly used the devil horns in the true manner was Dio (not that he invented it but he truly popularized it)

DoctorDeath

Wasnt it from Dio's grandma? He also claimed it

grime81

i thought that as well, and that it had to with warding and sending of the evil eye

Dark Buddha

Definitely Dio when he first toured with Black Sabbath. He indeed said it was the "evil eye" thing he got from his grandmother.
First saw him do it live on the Heaven and Hell tour 1980. Not seen it done by anyone before then.

Sutch

Just some nobody politician ;)

Influx

Not the worst since these guys seem to beat him, apparently Chrigel Glannzmen is an utter arse and just uncomfortable to be around.

pan_in_ithyphallic_mirth

Oh really??? lol did not know that. I thought folk metal guys were all supposed to drink mead, hail bro stuff, and party and get along with each other.

invisible-horizons

Schmier from Destruction.

SodomaniacGermany

Why?

TheWitchburner

I met Schmier a couple of times, he took his time to talk to the fans and take pictures etc. Seems like a very down to earth guy to me.

invisible-horizons

Unfortunately, that was my encounter of when I met. I remember back in 2011 when they were touring the U.S. with Heathen, I had the chance to hang out backstage before Destruction's set. I had brought some old school Heathen and Destruction posters hoping they would get signed. The dudes in Heathen, especially Dave White, were more than happy to sign my stuff and hang out. I approached the Destruction dudes and Mike was the only one that was cool and appreciative of the fans. I brought two Destruction posters: one was of the band holding torches (originally came with a limited version of Infernal Overkill) and a huge Mad Butcher tour poster which shows the cover of the EP. As Mike was about to sign my stuff, Schmier comes storming in saying that he didn't have time for this shit blah, blah, blah. I understand that he was getting ready to go on stage, but he could've went about it much better. That was my experience with Schmier.

My friend also met him and found him to have a rockstar and primaddona attitude.

Don't get me wrong, I love Destruction and Headhunter, but Schmier Is a dick.

The next time Destruction came around, Schmier was telling off the security guards to let the crowd stage dive. After that, someone from the crowd gets on stage and bumps into Schmier's microphone and accidentally knocks his teeth out. Schmier responds and says, "Thanks for knocking my teeth out,. Have a good night." The band then proceeded to walk off the stage after only playing a couple of songs. I don't blame him for walking off, but many people were pissed. Destruction skipped out on the Bay Area for the next U.S. tour, and played Sacramento (2 hours north of the Bay Area) instead.

They recently came back a couple months ago to play Oakland which was a great show!

That was my experience! He could've been having a bad day. I hope to meet him again under better circumstances because I really respect him as a frontman in Destruction and Headhunter!

I heard that the dudes in Slayer had issues with Schmier on Slayer's first tour in Europe with Destruction. I heard it a while back so please don't quote me on this.

Daniel Sodomaniac

He went all high and mighty at the last show the did in Sweden/Stockholm.
Not rude to the fans really but some other shit that really put me off the him and his band :/.
On the other hand i had some great time with the man he even cooked for me and a friend once during their stay in Sweden :).

invisible-horizons

I have a friend that works stage setup, and he said that Schmier is very specific about how he wants things to go, and if he doesn't get his way, he acts like a baby. He seems to give off a rockstar vibe.

Schmier cooked for you hahaha?!

Daniel Sodomaniac

Yeah he had some shenanigans going on before that made me NOT to support and buy a t-shirt for example.
Well yes i had the good fortune to be invited to the studio a couple of times when the recorded here in Sweden.
An old friend of mine used to record there as well so he and his band knew the people there.
He checked that is was ok for us ( 3 guys) to come over and just hang out.
We did and we had a great time drank alot and had a killer time!
When they did the "Antichrist" album we went there again and stayed for the night and everything.
Great times and Schmier made this awesome pasta dish for the rest of the band and us (actually only Mike as Sven the drummer had gone home to Germany at the time) i remember :)!
Great times!

Dr. Fill

Yes. Schmier is a dick. I toured with him. He kicked me out of venue showers on four or five different occasions. He kicked John from Warbriner out of a bathroom while John was on the toilet by trying to break down the door. Other lowlights include UDO, whose bus was stuck on the side of the road in my small hometown of 8500 residents (what a weird coincidence) and I drove down to say hi and meet the band and they were like "screw you." Also Tony from So ata Arctica who when I asked for an autograph said "no." Class act!

miggy_666

Maynard is pretty fucking unbearable now.

pan_in_ithyphallic_mirth

I cant think of that guy as being anything but.

I think I heard recently he came out as very on the conservative political side lately. Which is really bad considering the mild homo-erotic imagery Tool used to use, the groups drug use, and how they once faced censorship pushed by the same conservative political system they are now supporting!

Thrashattck94

Gene Simmons is also a good candidate. Imo, he's okay as a bassist but as a person he deserves to be crucified in flames. Both his body and his hyper inflated ego.

invisible-horizons

Gene is beyond ridiculous!

darling_decay

I thought he was nice, I met him last month when he was touring with his band. He invited a few people on stage to sing with him (I happened to be one of those people) and he even let me take a picture with him and fist bumped me afterwards.
But that's just my experience

kissman

Scott Ian is the biggest dick in Metal... hands down!

madbutcher

Blackie with no doubt!

invisible-horizons

I wouldn't doubt it.

DethronedEmperor23

Don't get the hate with Danzig, got to meet him after a show and he signed like 8 things (was a 3 item limit.

Personally the only dickhead moment I've had was when Jeff Becarra refused to meet any of his fans after the show that weren't part of his NYDM "club".

Der Todesking

Wtf, & I thought Jeff is really a nice guy...

vassago1974

Same here about Danzig. Back in the day when I saw him in the early 90s, he signed my copy of Black Aria and the whole band signed my copy of Lucifuge. Great guys.

NISSE666

I met (or rather stalked him) in a clothing store in Los Angeles 1990, he was there with his blond girlfriend, she was really annoyed that a fan approached him, but he was really nice and it was ok that i took a picture of him. He asked where we came from and so on.

Luisanorhr

Phil Anselmo.

Der Todesking

+1 Haven't met him personally but some of my friends did...

dlasater

Dave Mustaine....i told him the music he created in the early days helped me go through my mothers death of cancer(which is all true)... The guy laughed at me like he couldn't care less(which is very true). It was my mom who bought all the deth albums for me when I was younger..I like the youthanasia album art/design very much, I actually own a few shirts from that album....but this IS what a so called Christian hypocrit is. From my experience, he's just running a buisiness & really doesn't care about all of his fans.

OmeletteDuFromage

That's just sad, I would have punched him in the face if he laughed at me for saying his music helped me go through this shit...
Not cool dave, not cool

dlasater

One of the best: Dani from cradle..met twice, always listens to you & will never interrupt. First time meeting was unexpectedly in a head shop next to the venue they were playing. I had no idea he was there, just walked right in to have a look around. I had one of my cradle albums in my car with the paper insert , Dani agreed to wait in the store while I went back to the parking lot to get it, come back to the shop, and have it signed. This was in the year 2000 though...could be a different story with this guy, but he's always been extremely patient when we've met.

Dark Buddha

Cradle had a 6 am lobby call to fly to Perth, was nearly 2 am outside the venue after the gig but Dani, last out, still signed stuff, pics, for every person that waited. No-one missed out. Who does that? Pretty amazing.

dlasater

Very true! Dani has always been very patient and proper every single time....When you stand next to him (for autographs, pics, or whatever) you can see why he has so much success in a very competitive business. He gives everyone attention, he leaves no one out.

Dark Buddha

Sorry forgot to say 2013 in Sydney. Seems nothing's changed though. Yes he did listen but I deliberately kept it short as Paul Allender mentioned the 6 am call earlier. Paul also went out of his way to have a chat though. Told me to wait till after all autographs/pics done and later saw him looking around, realized he was looking for where I went LOL. Dark outside venue parking area. Obv. I raced over squealing "Here ... I'm here" like a starstruck schoolgirl hahaha How embarrassing looking back but he was great too. The drivers wanted to go but he stayed for ages! Amazing.

VoodooChild

Yngwie Malmsteen

Morbid_Welshman

Fortunately not met any bands who turned out to be Dickheads, but Joey Demaio seems to be a prime culprit. Some friends of mine went to see Manowar, paid an extortionate amount for a "Warriors of Metal" package, in which you supposedly got to meet them after the show and have quite some time with them. Instead, some roadie came out, gave them each a signed postcard and told them to fuck off!

Thrashattck94

Joey Demaio. 1/8 humanity, 7/8 up-his-own-shitpipe twat.

Daniel Sodomaniac

Gaaah, that Joey story didn`t help me buying a Manowar tickets for 1200 sek ( 115 £ ) hahaha :)!

Daniel Sodomaniac

Well are they trying to beat KISS in their own game i wonder :)
http://www.thekingdomofsteel.eu/ultimate-fan-experience-upgrade/

Nater90

That's fucked....

vassago1974

Even though she's not technically in a band, Sharon Osbourne...especially after that shit she pulled against Iron Maiden in 2005. And the whole "re-recording of Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake's parts" on the early Ozzy albums -- that was her decision (confirmed by Ozzy himself).

JackieChanFan

Nice guy:
Paul Caiafa aka Doyle Wolfgang von Frankenstein
Haven't met the guy myself, but a friend of mine did & said he is an absolute gentleman

Morbid_Welshman

Same for when I met Bruce Dickinson and Nicko McBrain! (Two separate occasions) Bruce missed his train to stick around meet everyone, and even signed and had photos with absolutely everyone! And Nicko did the same and had a Beer with us all too! Such a great thing to see first-hand that fame doesn't go to everyone's heads!

Corvus Corax

Doyle is super nice. I hung out a small bit with him after a show many years ago.

connorxhehir

Not saying Gene Hoglan is a dickhead per se but he was certainly rude to me and to people he doesn't consider 'on his level' when a band I played in toured with Testament last year.
Chuck Billy however gave us 2 crates of beer on his birthday and Steve DiGeorgio would talk to us and talked to me about Autopsy as I was wearing an Autopsy shirt so those guys are super nice.

Ravishing Grimness

Niklas from Shining

Claudandus

Isn't that kind of to be expected, why would anybody assume he's a pleasant guy to begin with?
Not defending the guy, having seen them live I can attest to how big of a tool he can be when he doesn't have to deal with people face to face. Spitting into the audience, calling for people to beat some guy down(witch of course never happened...), shouting obscenities at certain members in the crowd who rubbed him the wrong way, pulling the guitarists' hair ever so often etc etc.

The thing is, him being a douche is kind of the bands bread and butter. Why would he be anything other than that?

humus

Actually when they were touring with Skitliv/Gallhammer in 2007 they played our local pub. There's no backstage so I was taking a piss with Maniac constantly bumping into me because they were preparing for their gig in the toilets. Anyway, I was wearing a Lugubrum shirt and after the show Niklas came have a friendly chat about that band.

So yes, he's an asshole, I had the 'pleasure' of seeing him and Shining on stage last year. But there are very few people that are assholes 24/7. You can also see it throughout this topic, some people have bad experiences with some musicians while others had good experiences with the same persons.
Being in a band, touring, coping with stage setbacks, I can imagine that some musicians sometimes end up in bad moods eventhough they're not assholes. And even if they are assholes I don't really care, I'm into the music not the band members, and when they play this kind of music you can expect some of them to have extreme characters too.

sandmanforce

Blackie Lawless an asshole. I went a wasp show here Budapest and I met a girl that take my some wasp record cover to the backstage. Blackie said he no signing anything! Why? I can not understand why can not signing a cover for an old fan!

ArchonSatanic

Virus from Dope. I went with my now ex-girlfriend to see them, and ever since then he wouldn't stop trying to move in on her. She is a pretty well-known stripper in my area, so she is not hard to find online, so he started following her and talking to her, trying to get her to come hang out with him. I can't stand guys who try to move in on another man's woman. Its so trashy and disrespectful

RavenEffect

Blackie Lawless

Snaggletooth

Glen Benton is a fucking joke.

darling_decay

A lot of people say Gene Simmons is a dick, I met him a few months ago and he was pretty nice, he just doesn't like assholes

Nater90

I'd love to meet him, But he strikes me as the kind of guy you need to be straight up and cut the crap.

darling_decay

Yeah, he is but I mean who wants to be around someone who beats around the bush? Lmao I thought he was rad- he invited a few people on stage to sing "Rock n Roll All Nte" with him on stage, and I happened to be one of the people who made it up there, and after the song ended I went up to him and introduced myself to him. I asked him if I could take a picture with him and he said "yes" so I did, he even fist bumped me!

Nater90

Exactly right! Oh man that's fucking cool!!! Congrats.

Nice! How many can say they fist bumped Gene aye!! Gnarly stuff.

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