You do realize that being a pedophile is the same as being lets say gay? I think you mean that the pedophiles who touch kids need to die. And no, not all pedophiles touch children.
No it's not the same, it's a psychiatric disorder in the first place, while being gay is just a sexual orientation. But you're right, let's say "practicing" pedophiles should die a torturous death!
Uhm no. Western civilization see it (and I see it as right) as an sexual disorder. Besides that you are born with sexual preferences. Some are hetero sexual, some are gay, and some prefer them younger than 10. I see the latter one also as digusting, but there is indeed a difference between pedophile and pedosexual.
What the fuck are you talking about??? Care to explain how pedophiles and gays are the same? Gay sex is supposed to be an act between consenting adults which in every civilized country is legal. Being a pedophile on the other hand, means sexually abusing a minor which is illegal.
And you don't have to "touch kids" to be punished. Even if you own, pay for or distribute pedophile content you contribute to maintaining a situation where minors are sexually abused for "your" sake, therefore pedophiles need to be stoned to death and hanged by their guts.
he's meaning it in the way that they dont have a choice of who they are attracted to. no one is choosing to be attracted to children. those who do happen to he attracted ether undergo therapy and such. or they choose the wrong path and deserve a good punnishment. the hate towards pedophiles in general (so not just the child mollesters/child porn owners) makes it harder for the rest to find help and support.
how would you feel if you where to try and get help, but everyone just threatens to kill you all the time. you t hink thats going to help people? it might even devert people from the right path cause they feel like society has already exluded them anway. (comparable to people living in bad areas beeing more prone to becomming criminals since they are treated like such by others anyway.)
though this guy we are talking about is punished for having sex with 16 year olds. while they where underaged it is not pedophillia. pedophillia is defined as being attracted to children under (around) 12 years old.
has to do with that they cant make children yet, making it completely unnatural to feel sexual attraction towards them. sexual attraction towards pubescent children is actualy biologicaly normal, just look at animals, but societally wrong, and for good reasons. but because it is not unnatural it's not pedophillia.
(PS. theres a name for people who are attracted to pubescent children, it's called Hebephillia)
here 2 parts from Wikipedia:
''In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often applied to any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse.[4][5] This use conflates the sexual attraction (pedophilia) with the act of abuse (child molestation), and does not distinguish between attraction to prepubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent minors.[6][7] Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided because although people who commit child sexual abuse sometimes exhibit the disorder,[5][8] many child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles,[6][9][10] and not all pedophiles molest children.[4][5][11]''
''Pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation because it emerges before or during puberty, and because it is stable over time.[46] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[47]''
Well there were 3 girls. One was 8, one was 12, and one was 13. On that note, Gary is a pedophile, molester, and shitbag. Not to mention, he had one hit song which was annoying as fuck and looked like a gay, obese Elvis.
1st of all, the article says he was sentenced to 16 years in jail not that the girls were 16 years old. The girls were younger than 13... read the whole story
2nd. Yes they have a choice, there are a shitload of qualified psychologists, clinics and whatnot which can help with that stuff.
There is also this thing called Physician–patient privilege so no one should know that he liked children and tried to kill him for seeking help as you said.
There is a huge gap between thinking of something and actually doing it. In theory thinking or sex with minors or liking children that way does not make one a pedophile because you simply cannot control one's thoughts, but raping 12 year old girls as Gary Glitter did makes him a pedophile and a child molester and he should be fucking executed for that instead of wasting taxpayers' money to feed him in prison.
okay, sorry, misread that. didn't read the article, don't know who he is and cant be bothered to know ether, i fuck up there, sorry. apart from this shitbag. the reason i wrote that comment was because i allways get anoyed when people simply hate pedophiles, instead of child mollesters. they are 2 things that overlap a lot of times. (going to make a loose comparison again, hope no one is going to get offended like they allways do) its the same logic as people comlaining that they hate muslims instead if terrorists. so complaining about a whole group of people instead of specificly pointing towards the people in that group that do the harm.
someone who gets psychotherapy for being attracted to children gets diagnosed with Pedophilia, pedophilia like i said, is the sexual attraction to children, not the sexual acts towards them. people need to know the diffrence, i tried to explain that, but you wont listen. (read the first Wiki quite again please)
also, yeah, the psysician wont do anything wrong, and try to help, its their job, i know that juct like doctors, its illegal to talk about their patients. but how do you think ones friends, family and neighbors are going to react? when youre depressed or have an anxiety disorder one does not only get help from their psysician, they rely on support in their direct enviorment, wich helps a lot. pedophiles can't do that, which is also the reason you pretty much wont ever hear of pedophiles that dont do anything wrong. but everytime something about pedophillia gets discussed there will be people saying all pedophiles need to die, which includes a lot of innocent people. those people will constantly read or hear about these things, even if people dont know if someone is a pedophile. so how private the psycisian keeps their therapy, they will still be exposed to constant hate. maybe not directly, but it does still do harm to people.
There is a difference between pedophiles and pedosexuals. The first is comparable with normal sexual preference but they prefer hildren but they don't practice sex with children (I disgust that also, but it's a sexual preference), the second one is sexual activity with children. Those deserve the worst in the world.
Exactly what i thought. This hair-splitting about perverts that are potentially threat to children is just ridiculous. As well as this modern hypocritic uber-tolerance towards anything...
I doubt, any of you would be sitting there and trying to figure out the diffecence between pedophiles and pedosexuals, if you child (perish the thought!) would be molested by such a sick fuck.
+1!!!!
This must be one of the most heinous and unspeakable things a person can do (or "desire"), and it is beyond evident that it cannot be tolerated.
This is all over the news here. I highly doubt he'll serve the whole sentence; Personally, I think he should have the shit kicked out of him by the families of those he hurt
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Evil_Dead on
Don't know who the guy is, but padophiles should die a torturous death!
Lars248 on
You do realize that being a pedophile is the same as being lets say gay? I think you mean that the pedophiles who touch kids need to die. And no, not all pedophiles touch children.
Evil_Dead on
No it's not the same, it's a psychiatric disorder in the first place, while being gay is just a sexual orientation. But you're right, let's say "practicing" pedophiles should die a torturous death!
Faber on
Uhm no. Western civilization see it (and I see it as right) as an sexual disorder. Besides that you are born with sexual preferences. Some are hetero sexual, some are gay, and some prefer them younger than 10. I see the latter one also as digusting, but there is indeed a difference between pedophile and pedosexual.
Stathis on
What the fuck are you talking about??? Care to explain how pedophiles and gays are the same? Gay sex is supposed to be an act between consenting adults which in every civilized country is legal. Being a pedophile on the other hand, means sexually abusing a minor which is illegal.
And you don't have to "touch kids" to be punished. Even if you own, pay for or distribute pedophile content you contribute to maintaining a situation where minors are sexually abused for "your" sake, therefore pedophiles need to be stoned to death and hanged by their guts.
NIGHTRIDER on
Right on mate !
gizter on
he's meaning it in the way that they dont have a choice of who they are attracted to. no one is choosing to be attracted to children. those who do happen to he attracted ether undergo therapy and such. or they choose the wrong path and deserve a good punnishment. the hate towards pedophiles in general (so not just the child mollesters/child porn owners) makes it harder for the rest to find help and support.
how would you feel if you where to try and get help, but everyone just threatens to kill you all the time. you t hink thats going to help people? it might even devert people from the right path cause they feel like society has already exluded them anway. (comparable to people living in bad areas beeing more prone to becomming criminals since they are treated like such by others anyway.)
though this guy we are talking about is punished for having sex with 16 year olds. while they where underaged it is not pedophillia. pedophillia is defined as being attracted to children under (around) 12 years old.
has to do with that they cant make children yet, making it completely unnatural to feel sexual attraction towards them. sexual attraction towards pubescent children is actualy biologicaly normal, just look at animals, but societally wrong, and for good reasons. but because it is not unnatural it's not pedophillia.
(PS. theres a name for people who are attracted to pubescent children, it's called Hebephillia)
here 2 parts from Wikipedia:
''In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often applied to any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse.[4][5] This use conflates the sexual attraction (pedophilia) with the act of abuse (child molestation), and does not distinguish between attraction to prepubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent minors.[6][7] Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided because although people who commit child sexual abuse sometimes exhibit the disorder,[5][8] many child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles,[6][9][10] and not all pedophiles molest children.[4][5][11]''
''Pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation because it emerges before or during puberty, and because it is stable over time.[46] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[47]''
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Well there were 3 girls. One was 8, one was 12, and one was 13. On that note, Gary is a pedophile, molester, and shitbag. Not to mention, he had one hit song which was annoying as fuck and looked like a gay, obese Elvis.
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1st of all, the article says he was sentenced to 16 years in jail not that the girls were 16 years old. The girls were younger than 13... read the whole story
2nd. Yes they have a choice, there are a shitload of qualified psychologists, clinics and whatnot which can help with that stuff.
There is also this thing called Physician–patient privilege so no one should know that he liked children and tried to kill him for seeking help as you said.
There is a huge gap between thinking of something and actually doing it. In theory thinking or sex with minors or liking children that way does not make one a pedophile because you simply cannot control one's thoughts, but raping 12 year old girls as Gary Glitter did makes him a pedophile and a child molester and he should be fucking executed for that instead of wasting taxpayers' money to feed him in prison.
gizter on
okay, sorry, misread that. didn't read the article, don't know who he is and cant be bothered to know ether, i fuck up there, sorry. apart from this shitbag. the reason i wrote that comment was because i allways get anoyed when people simply hate pedophiles, instead of child mollesters. they are 2 things that overlap a lot of times. (going to make a loose comparison again, hope no one is going to get offended like they allways do) its the same logic as people comlaining that they hate muslims instead if terrorists. so complaining about a whole group of people instead of specificly pointing towards the people in that group that do the harm.
someone who gets psychotherapy for being attracted to children gets diagnosed with Pedophilia, pedophilia like i said, is the sexual attraction to children, not the sexual acts towards them. people need to know the diffrence, i tried to explain that, but you wont listen. (read the first Wiki quite again please)
also, yeah, the psysician wont do anything wrong, and try to help, its their job, i know that juct like doctors, its illegal to talk about their patients. but how do you think ones friends, family and neighbors are going to react? when youre depressed or have an anxiety disorder one does not only get help from their psysician, they rely on support in their direct enviorment, wich helps a lot. pedophiles can't do that, which is also the reason you pretty much wont ever hear of pedophiles that dont do anything wrong. but everytime something about pedophillia gets discussed there will be people saying all pedophiles need to die, which includes a lot of innocent people. those people will constantly read or hear about these things, even if people dont know if someone is a pedophile. so how private the psycisian keeps their therapy, they will still be exposed to constant hate. maybe not directly, but it does still do harm to people.
Faber on
There is a difference between pedophiles and pedosexuals. The first is comparable with normal sexual preference but they prefer hildren but they don't practice sex with children (I disgust that also, but it's a sexual preference), the second one is sexual activity with children. Those deserve the worst in the world.
alla2465 on
you are fucking disgusting, trying to justify pedos.
Evil_Dead on
Exactly what i thought. This hair-splitting about perverts that are potentially threat to children is just ridiculous. As well as this modern hypocritic uber-tolerance towards anything...
I doubt, any of you would be sitting there and trying to figure out the diffecence between pedophiles and pedosexuals, if you child (perish the thought!) would be molested by such a sick fuck.
Hárbarðr on
+1!!!!
This must be one of the most heinous and unspeakable things a person can do (or "desire"), and it is beyond evident that it cannot be tolerated.
DethronedEmperor23 on
again? what a fucking scumbag
joecubbie
Lol no more "Rock and Roll" for this piece of shit.
bad_american1992 on
Here is a picture of Gary on that fateful night... hahahahaa
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cambotero on
so this song takes a new meaning for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi7ds7Lmmrk
DeathRipper on
It's really messed up that they still play his song during youth basketball games.
Morbid_Welshman on
This is all over the news here. I highly doubt he'll serve the whole sentence; Personally, I think he should have the shit kicked out of him by the families of those he hurt